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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth03ss
so your 345hp hemi went 15.24 at 5200lbs?

the SS beats that bone stock weighing 74lbs more and with AWD and the same exact 345hp. hehe
Your SS, any SS, one SS? Can you be more specific! I didn't say my truck was faster than an SS or any truck for that matter, I just posted what it did. Don't start a pissing match! Magazine tests don't count either, I've seen several different times for the same car or truck depending on the magazine, when and where it was tested. I've also seen dead stock times for Hemi Rams like mine from 14.9-15.1, again, depending on where in the good ol USA the owner ran it and when. The Silverado SS is considered the Chevy "performance truck", it should be faster than it is. I also think the Hemi Ram should be faster than it is but DC has it by the ***** because of the stock tuning. This could go on and on, but I won't.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ram4Pick
Well, there was a 150 eng hour rumor also, I never felt a damn thing. My truck has a little of 20K on it now, seems to have run the same from day one. I've also read that the computer adapts to your driving, you baby it and it won't perform as well as when you jump on it all the time. Don't know if it's true or not but I do know that if I'm all it on the time, my mpg sucks! I try and drive to get a little better mpg but do jump on it driving from time to time just in case that's true.
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So what kind of gas mileage is your Hemi putting down? I've heard that 15 mpg was good for one but I can't remember where I heard it.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by StrokerAce03
So what kind of gas mileage is your Hemi putting down? I've heard that 15 mpg was good for one but I can't remember where I heard it.
Around town I get 12.5-13.5 mpg, on the freeway I can and have gotten 18.5-19.5 mpg. On the mpg computer one time when the freeway was perfectly flat, I was getting 21.2 according to the mpg meter. That soon went away when I hit some but the overall mpg that trip (to mother in laws and back) was 18.8 mpg..
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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I watched a bone stock SS used as a tow vehicle run 15.25 with 87* temps. It was the very first time the truck went down the track. the guy used it to pull his trailer with his race truck with, I finally talked him to taking the SS down.
Personally I think the SS and the HEMI should be faster. I also have a buddy with a rcsb that he swapped the 4.8 for a LQ(, and with the 4.8 tuning and one wheel peel runs 14.5 consistant. With my tune he gets no traction, but trapped 97 mph, which should put him around 13.9 or so. So why is Dodges rcsb 345 hp truck running low 15's? The LQ9 is rated 345HP also. Think it should be faster personally.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by white1
I watched a bone stock SS used as a tow vehicle run 15.25 with 87* temps. It was the very first time the truck went down the track. the guy used it to pull his trailer with his race truck with, I finally talked him to taking the SS down.
Personally I think the SS and the HEMI should be faster. I also have a buddy with a rcsb that he swapped the 4.8 for a LQ(, and with the 4.8 tuning and one wheel peel runs 14.5 consistant. With my tune he gets no traction, but trapped 97 mph, which should put him around 13.9 or so. So why is Dodges rcsb 345 hp truck running low 15's? The LQ9 is rated 345HP also. Think it should be faster personally.
I agree with you, you would think something with 345 hp would be faster but they are also in heavy trucks. It's the tuning! I know the Hemi is severly held back by the tuning and torque management, my truck shifts like my granny driving a mush box. You can hear the engine being detuned before each shift, soft and slow. The 03 Hemi Rams have a different PCM than the 04-05, they can actually pull a wire that interupts the TM to the transmission. Doing that alone is suppose to be good for .3-.4 at the track. If I could get a custom tune for my 04 I would, no one does it. Supposidly SuperChips has addressed this issue on the 04-05 tuner they are about to release (August now, we'll see) and the shifts have been greatly enhanced, again, we'll see. My 00 Silverado had TM also but I think the Ram is alot worse! DC and their 7/70 powertrain warranty, they don't want to be fixing my trans at 69K for free, thus alot of TM. SIGH!
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Yea TM definatly sucks bad. It was very noticable in the Dodge. As far as weight. How much more does the Dodge weigh than the Chevy? And as far as the times,are you stating times for a rc, or qc HEMI? The SS is ex cab and AWD, so they are pretty heavy too. I'm not starting a pissing match, just stating what I noticed.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by white1
Yea TM definatly sucks bad. It was very noticable in the Dodge. As far as weight. How much more does the Dodge weigh than the Chevy? And as far as the times,are you stating times for a rc, or qc HEMI? The SS is ex cab and AWD, so they are pretty heavy too. I'm not starting a pissing match, just stating what I noticed.
No problem about the pissing match, that comment was directed at Sleath03ss. AQC on DTW has a Ram just like mine, sport package, color, etc. He said his 4x2 Hemi Ram QC ran a 14.99 dead stock in Florida. I've seen other posts that claim anywhere from 15.00 to over 16.00.. I've seen on SilveradoSS.com times anywhere from 14.8-15.8 dead stock for the AWD SS's. It all depends on when and where the truck is run. We know that with the same brand, some are trucks quicker than others even though on paper they are the exact same truck. The AWD SS is probably heavier than my 4x2 QC, mine weighed in at 5240 lbs.. I think the AWD has a definite advantage at the starting line, punch it and go. I have to feather my truck of the line, if I punch it and tried to go, I would go up in smoke. So what the AWD may take away in overall power to the ground, it makes up for it at the starting line. Truthfully, I do think the SS stock for stock is quicker. My last time at the track and SS wtih just a custom tune was running 14.9-15.3 in 97* heat, my best was a 15.56 with just a muffler change out. I think you could line the trucks 10 times and may actually get a 5-5 split, they're that close.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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the weight hurts the dodges alot. BTW, Ram4Pick, I love that color on those trucks.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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BTW, Ram4Pick, I love that color on those trucks.
Thanks, here's a pic I've taken recently.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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It must be something about the tracks around here because trucks dont run what they do on here, Im talking chevys and dodges. Saw a excab hemi 2wd w/20s run a 16.xx at around 84-84 and a single cab hemi on 20s, bone stock run a 15.4-15.5 @88. A excab 5.3 z71 w/free mods ran a 16.5 or so at the same track. Im not saying anyone is lying, i just know that this is where alot of arguments get started. I dont know if it is due to area gas, elevation, humidity or whatever. A single cab srt10 ram ran a 14.00 at 101(i know they are hard to launch). I know that my brother and Cammin03 run slower than some of the times seen on this board also. I dont know what im getting at.
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