GMT 800 & Older GM General Discussion 2006 & Older Trucks | General Discussion

With $3+/gallon gas, let's talk about where economy & performance work together

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 02:50 PM
  #1  
alan2000T/A's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 522
Likes: 0
From: NW, Georgia
Default With $3+/gallon gas, let's talk about where economy & performance work together

Yep, my rig (03 Yuk LX 4x4) is not exactly a performance truck or a gas sipper. However, w/ nothing more than a K&N I was able to get 19mpg on the hwy, but getting that thing up and going around town yields 12/13mpg.

So...based on my calculations, it would take 2 years at current gas prices to make up for the expense of headers. Even then...how much will headers help if they are dumping into stock catalytic converters??? I can tell you my wife won't ride in any of my cars w/o cats because of the smell, so she sure ain't going to ride in the Yuk if I go "illegal" just for economy.

I've tried the Gibson cat-back -way too loud for what this vehicle is used for. I put it on my brother's Yukon instead.

Even though its been discussed before...what are you guys doing that actually works??? The efan thing is out for me because I'll tow the 'bird from time to time and can't afford overheating. The tornado air crap or throttle body spacers have been tried w/ no benefit. Let's cut through the marketing junk and hear what works for these full size vehicles.

I didn't buy it to get 30 mpg, but we all know there's ways to improve.

Let's hear it!!!

Last edited by alan2000T/A; Jul 17, 2006 at 09:35 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 05:16 PM
  #2  
Eye-P's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Default

LC-1 Wideband- $200

Tuning software- $600

This could bring you up to 16-18 in town.
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 09:36 PM
  #3  
alan2000T/A's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 522
Likes: 0
From: NW, Georgia
Default

now...that sounds interesting. I'll have to do the research on that.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:02 AM
  #4  
alan2000T/A's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 522
Likes: 0
From: NW, Georgia
Default headers

I wonder if long tube headers would benefit these trucks at all for efficiency dumping into stock cats?
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 04:14 PM
  #5  
shadowmaker's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Default

I know most people here are making their trucks fast, which most of the time leds to less mpg. But for some of us, with the price of gas, we re having to give up being fast for mpg. I would like to know too what we can do besides the "drive like a grandma" style. ( i m already doing that) And its not working. On the highway, I do pretty good but around town is killing me. I cant afford $800 bc of friggin gas being so high. SO whats some cheap things that actually work.

Do the air boxes and a K&N really benefit enough to justify $200?
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 05:46 PM
  #6  
RoninsDenali's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 493
Likes: 0
From: State College, PA
Default

Originally Posted by Eye-P
LC-1 Wideband- $200

Tuning software- $600

This could bring you up to 16-18 in town.
OpenLoop SD Mode, with some creative AFR settings you can even get highway mileage into the low 20's. *cough* lean cruise *cough* (i mean setting the commanded AFR in the cruising range to 15.x not the Lean cruise settings that dont work)
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 09:38 PM
  #7  
alan2000T/A's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 522
Likes: 0
From: NW, Georgia
Default

I talked to several folks, and the consensus of the "air kit" is that it really does out perform a simple filter replacement. It comes with some different noises. If K&N can advertise 15rwhp in a cold air kit (not the polished version -pretty, but holds heat) then they have to be on to something for efficiency. I may even move to that and try it.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 11:07 PM
  #8  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,197
Likes: 0
From: Spring, TX
Default

Originally Posted by alan2000T/A
I talked to several folks, and the consensus of the "air kit" is that it really does out perform a simple filter replacement. It comes with some different noises. If K&N can advertise 15rwhp in a cold air kit (not the polished version -pretty, but holds heat) then they have to be on to something for efficiency. I may even move to that and try it.
You won't see much gains out of that if any. Everything helps, but I doubt you will see much of a difference.
I vote to stay with the K&N drop in filter and get a smooth replacement air tube. There is someone that sells them. I forget who that is though. That would be the best route to take.
If you do decide to go with a complete replacement system, get one off of ebay. They seem to have them pretty cheap sometimes.

Jim
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 07:58 AM
  #9  
alan2000T/A's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 522
Likes: 0
From: NW, Georgia
Default

I believe that Air-raid or Volant sells the replacement tube only for about $100. It states that it out flows the stock plumbing by 400cfm -?
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 08:04 AM
  #10  
.T.'s Avatar
.T.
TECH Resident
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 810
Likes: 0
From: Taxachusetts
Default

Originally Posted by CHEVY6000VHO
I vote to stay with the K&N drop in filter and get a smooth replacement air tube. There is someone that sells them. I forget who that is though. That would be the best route to take.
Jim
That's the Airaid MIT tube.
For the MPG, all you can do is lay off it.
I don't know how it is that headers are going to help your fuel economy? Anytime you modify your stock config it's to push more air and fuel through your motor. Increasing your HP by 15 (which a KN won't) isn't going to enable you to stay off the throttle any more than you would without it.
Just keep it under 75, drive around in 4th everywhere, buy the cheap 87 octane and don't ever punch it.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:33 PM.