Radix on..... First impressions
#11
Originally Posted by Naked AV
Part of the problem I believe is overpromotion at the manufacturer level, part of the problem is the communication of the overpromotion by vendors, and the rest is the fact that there are no real-world numbers (either before/after dynos or before/after 1/4 mile times) to give an accurate depiction of what the Radix actually adds. Those people who do have dyno numbers usually roll into their numbers other things (like head and cam installs), making the job of knowing what part of that is the Radix next to impossible.
I think gearheads78 needs to first contact Magna and see if there are some updates available for his tune. Then put it on a dyno (hopefully an operator that knows what he/she is doing) and see what the results are. People need to understand, you are driving a 5000-6000 pound vehicle not a Corvette or a RCSB truck. The "*** dyno" is not always the best indication of HP. So before we get into a pissing contest (which these kinds of post usually do), do the right thing and make a few phone calls, have your installer go over everything to make sure its working properly and then form your opinions.
#12
Originally Posted by BigTex
Hello gearheads78, its good to see another DFW area truck guy on here.
Just as most of these guys have said, torque management will be your biggest issue. If I were you, I'd have a tech from the service department take a ride with you and watch it with a Tech2. See what kind of timing you are getting in that dead area and see if it registers any knock retard.
I'll probably meet in Arlington for the power tour kick off and possibly make the first leg of the trip. I'll look for an Av with a Radix.
Just as most of these guys have said, torque management will be your biggest issue. If I were you, I'd have a tech from the service department take a ride with you and watch it with a Tech2. See what kind of timing you are getting in that dead area and see if it registers any knock retard.
I'll probably meet in Arlington for the power tour kick off and possibly make the first leg of the trip. I'll look for an Av with a Radix.
OT on the tech II, Over the last few years I have found myself weening myself off of carbed cars. My Malibu is the last thing I own with a carb and I have been considering doing some sort of EFI swap in it.
My question is does any know of either software or device like a TECH II that is not 1000's of dollars. I would want it to be combatable with TPI, LT1, and LS1 based motors. I would like to be able to log data on anything from my 04' Avalanche to my little brother's 86 TPI IROC and what ever in between.
#13
This tread was not intended to be a slam on the Radix. Like I originaly mentioned I am sure the lack luster start is a combo of the TM and the fact that this thing weighs close to 3 tons. For not having any other mods it pulls very well from about 50-90. I know that if I try to get rid of the TM the stock tanny will go
My wallet is just not quite ready for that just yet.
When and if I get the $$ for a tranny what does everyone recomend? A place called RockOn in Denton has a pretty good rep in the f-body world. Anyone used theres in a heavy truck?
My wallet is just not quite ready for that just yet.When and if I get the $$ for a tranny what does everyone recomend? A place called RockOn in Denton has a pretty good rep in the f-body world. Anyone used theres in a heavy truck?
#14
ANothe rthing on Naked Av's post worth mentioning I think is it was something due to a faulty GM part, not a RADIX part. If I remember right it was the fuel pressure regulator being out of adjustment that caused the biggest performance hit.
Some Diag software you might be interested in is AutoTap. Give them a call and tell them what yoy're wanting and they should be able to hook you up. If you do something strictly for LS1 based engines, you can't beat EFILive.
Check out that timing down low ... if It's much less than 15 or so, then I would get it's TqM, you might make sure you don't have any knock too.
Some Diag software you might be interested in is AutoTap. Give them a call and tell them what yoy're wanting and they should be able to hook you up. If you do something strictly for LS1 based engines, you can't beat EFILive.
Check out that timing down low ... if It's much less than 15 or so, then I would get it's TqM, you might make sure you don't have any knock too.
#15
Originally Posted by BlownChevy
Naked AV, I think your experience was a little different. There has been Several Dyno sheets posted with rear wheel gains in the 120 hp range. I have seen many hp gains in the 120 rwhp area or more. Like I have said over 1000 times, each dyno is different. Conditions change, dynos change, and set ups change. No two trucks will net the exact same results, even on the same dyno. Your HP gain of 60 HP was a little off, yes I will not dispute that. BUT that has been rectified and you are (or seem to be) a happy customer.
I think gearheads78 needs to first contact Magna and see if there are some updates available for his tune. Then put it on a dyno (hopefully an operator that knows what he/she is doing) and see what the results are. People need to understand, you are driving a 5000-6000 pound vehicle not a Corvette or a RCSB truck. The "*** dyno" is not always the best indication of HP. So before we get into a pissing contest (which these kinds of post usually do), do the right thing and make a few phone calls, have your installer go over everything to make sure its working properly and then form your opinions.
I think gearheads78 needs to first contact Magna and see if there are some updates available for his tune. Then put it on a dyno (hopefully an operator that knows what he/she is doing) and see what the results are. People need to understand, you are driving a 5000-6000 pound vehicle not a Corvette or a RCSB truck. The "*** dyno" is not always the best indication of HP. So before we get into a pissing contest (which these kinds of post usually do), do the right thing and make a few phone calls, have your installer go over everything to make sure its working properly and then form your opinions.
Off topic, if you want to present these 'several' dyno sheets that you claim to have or know of, you should start a different thread about it. If there are so many, then it really shouldn't be a problem, I'd love to see them, and I'm sure some others would as well. Otherwise, we should stay on the topic of helping gearheads78.
#16
Originally Posted by Naked AV
Brian, I've got my experience with the Radix and you need to just accept that. Fact is, Magnuson said they fixed everything with my truck, that my Avalanche was 'right up there with all of the other 5.3L Vortecs' they have in their database, and I still can't turn my tires over. Never have been able to. Now gearheads78 is having the same issue and I was just sharing my experience with him (which by the way is what this board is all about).
Off topic, if you want to present these 'several' dyno sheets that you claim to have or know of, you should start a different thread about it. If there are so many, then it really shouldn't be a problem, I'd love to see them, and I'm sure some others would as well. Otherwise, we should stay on the topic of helping gearheads78.
Off topic, if you want to present these 'several' dyno sheets that you claim to have or know of, you should start a different thread about it. If there are so many, then it really shouldn't be a problem, I'd love to see them, and I'm sure some others would as well. Otherwise, we should stay on the topic of helping gearheads78.
I couldn't even get rid of that with edit. I finally resorted to setting the spark retard limit to 15 to get rid of it. That made a huge difference.
A 5.3 liter engine at 1600 rpm's and 0 degrees of timing, has very little power even with 8 psi.
I also think everyone interested in performance should have at laest a 2600 stall.
#17
gearheads78, I did not intend to ***** up your thread. I intention was to bring a different light into this after NakedAV's post. NakedAV, I am not here to slam you, and I do accept that you had your issues I never denied that. I believe I did my best to help you through them and we found that there was some issues with your tune, and a fuel pressure regulator issue. I have installed COUNTLESS Radix kits and not every one of them can "lay a patch", most SUV's with big wheels and tires can not, even with the Radix.
Off Topic, we have been back and forth about the dyno sheets a thousand times, and each time they are posted by me and other members. I am not here to bash you dude; I was just shining some light on the situation.
gearheads78, you need to take into account what you are looking to do with your Avalanche. Drag race it or have good all around performance? You also should be aware that changing pulleys and changing your tune can also lead to an untimely death of your trans and warranty. Trust me, been there done that.
Off Topic, we have been back and forth about the dyno sheets a thousand times, and each time they are posted by me and other members. I am not here to bash you dude; I was just shining some light on the situation.
gearheads78, you need to take into account what you are looking to do with your Avalanche. Drag race it or have good all around performance? You also should be aware that changing pulleys and changing your tune can also lead to an untimely death of your trans and warranty. Trust me, been there done that.
#18
Originally Posted by BlownChevy
Off Topic, we have been back and forth about the dyno sheets a thousand times, and each time they are posted by me and other members. I am not here to bash you dude; I was just shining some light on the situation.
Back on topic ... I would put money that torque management is holding you back considerably. WHat size tires do you have, stock? Do the Av's have leaf spring rear suspension or the SUV 4 link? That might be a reason for not being able to lay a patch.
(new saying for me) What rear end gear do you have?
#19
Originally Posted by BlownChevy
gearheads78, you need to take into account what you are looking to do with your Avalanche. Drag race it or have good all around performance? You also should be aware that changing pulleys and changing your tune can also lead to an untimely death of your trans and warranty. Trust me, been there done that.
I am aware of what will happen if I start to crank things up. Thats why I don't want to risk it for a while as I am saving my pennies.
Originally Posted by Flyer
Back on topic ... I would put money that torque management is holding you back considerably. WHat size tires do you have, stock? Do the Av's have leaf spring rear suspension or the SUV 4 link? That might be a reason for not being able to lay a patch.
(new saying for me) What rear end gear do you have?
(new saying for me) What rear end gear do you have?


