need help fast! truck wont start!
Mar 2, 2009 | 12:19 AM
#21
Launching!
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Glad to hear you got it started man, it always seems like I make the same type of mistake when doing something involved like this. I think I just get wrapped up in double checking all of the important little details and I forget something stupidly obvious. How does it feel so far? Have you gotten a tune to match it yet?
Mar 2, 2009 | 12:53 AM
#22
Lucky ain't the work for it. Do you even know how the four stroke cycle works? Do some reading and become better informed before you take on a job like this by yourself. Didn't you have someone with GenIII experience around to help you. Did you take notes or digital pictures as you pulled the motor down? Some guys can do this stuff in their sleep. They could throw all the bolts in a big pile(not really a good idea) and pick them up one at a time and put the motor back together with no problem. You obviously are NOT at that level. Digital cameras are inexpensive and would have been a big help to you. You should have put #1 at TDC on the compression stroke before you started pulling your motor down. That way you start out at DOT to DOT. Most people don't do that and it isn't even suggested on LS1HowTo. There are 2 TDCs(as well as 2 BDCs) for every cylinder in the four stroke cycle. Are you even aware of that? It makes a difference. Ask for help ahead of time or do searches. This site has been around for years and every mistake that can be made has already been made and is documented here. All you have to do is look.
Mar 2, 2009 | 02:36 AM
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No one around here knows anything about working on engines, especially EFI, so having someone around with prior experience wasnt an option without taking it to a shop. Yes I know how a 4 stroke engine works, and yes I know I was lucky during my install. I took many pics while taking the engine apart so I could see how it fit together.
Lining them dot to dot to begin with would have been a great idea, but even after reading on this forum and ls1tech for weeks before I did this, I didnt see that mentioned, but its good to know either way.
I couldnt really comment on how she drives because 20 miles down the road I loose all forward gears in my truck. When I rolled to a stop I realized somehow my trans cooler was nicked and had a hole, causing me to loose all trans fluid. I checked the dipstick - dry. Hopefully there isnt damage to the trans and I just need to replace the cooler and refill, but we will see I suppose.
Im waiting for my rear end to explode pulling out of the driveway when I get that fixed. It is odd though that even when I had zero fluid, not a single warning light or code was thrown...
Lining them dot to dot to begin with would have been a great idea, but even after reading on this forum and ls1tech for weeks before I did this, I didnt see that mentioned, but its good to know either way.
I couldnt really comment on how she drives because 20 miles down the road I loose all forward gears in my truck. When I rolled to a stop I realized somehow my trans cooler was nicked and had a hole, causing me to loose all trans fluid. I checked the dipstick - dry. Hopefully there isnt damage to the trans and I just need to replace the cooler and refill, but we will see I suppose.
Im waiting for my rear end to explode pulling out of the driveway when I get that fixed. It is odd though that even when I had zero fluid, not a single warning light or code was thrown...
Mar 2, 2009 | 03:31 AM
#24
Not to be rude. But holy ****. He made a mistake. People make mistakes. He's not blaming anyone so get off his back a bit. He didn't come in here cussing people and making a fuss, he just realized he did something wrong and was trying to get a little input.
He could have spent 12 months on here searching and reading and still made a mistake on something. **** happens. That doesn't make him stupid.
The guys that can do this in there sleep, have done it over and over and over. Could they do it in there sleep the first time out? no. He's trying to learn and isn't putting the blame on anyone. I didn't realize you had to know every tid bit about and engine and pass a test for GM to be able to work on your own stuff.
There's people on here that do this **** for a Living. every day all day for years. and still ask for help with something they've done over and over again. Obviously not lining the dot on a cam, but stupid crap none the less.
I completely understand if your trying to give him tips on what he should do next time, but your making it sound like he's a complete idiot and shouldn't be touching a wrench until he can master the Rubiks cube. Everyone else that posted was trying to help not point and make fun for making a simple mistake. Good to see you never make mistakes. Congratulations.
He could have spent 12 months on here searching and reading and still made a mistake on something. **** happens. That doesn't make him stupid.
The guys that can do this in there sleep, have done it over and over and over. Could they do it in there sleep the first time out? no. He's trying to learn and isn't putting the blame on anyone. I didn't realize you had to know every tid bit about and engine and pass a test for GM to be able to work on your own stuff.
There's people on here that do this **** for a Living. every day all day for years. and still ask for help with something they've done over and over again. Obviously not lining the dot on a cam, but stupid crap none the less.
I completely understand if your trying to give him tips on what he should do next time, but your making it sound like he's a complete idiot and shouldn't be touching a wrench until he can master the Rubiks cube. Everyone else that posted was trying to help not point and make fun for making a simple mistake. Good to see you never make mistakes. Congratulations.
Lucky ain't the work for it. Do you even know how the four stroke cycle works? Do some reading and become better informed before you take on a job like this by yourself. Didn't you have someone with GenIII experience around to help you. Did you take notes or digital pictures as you pulled the motor down? Some guys can do this stuff in their sleep. They could throw all the bolts in a big pile(not really a good idea) and pick them up one at a time and put the motor back together with no problem. You obviously are NOT at that level. Digital cameras are inexpensive and would have been a big help to you. You should have put #1 at TDC on the compression stroke before you started pulling your motor down. That way you start out at DOT to DOT. Most people don't do that and it isn't even suggested on LS1HowTo. There are 2 TDCs(as well as 2 BDCs) for every cylinder in the four stroke cycle. Are you even aware of that? It makes a difference. Ask for help ahead of time or do searches. This site has been around for years and every mistake that can be made has already been made and is documented here. All you have to do is look.
Last edited by viciousknid; Mar 2, 2009 at 03:36 AM.
Mar 2, 2009 | 08:17 AM
#25
You know there really is no reason to belittle this guy! At least he has the ***** to tear into his truck. He may not know it all about 4 stroke engines, but now he knows how to change a cam and springs.
You haven't always known it all either
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...ad.php?t=95537
Atomic were are you located?
You haven't always known it all either
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...ad.php?t=95537
Atomic were are you located?
Lucky ain't the work for it. Do you even know how the four stroke cycle works? Do some reading and become better informed before you take on a job like this by yourself. Didn't you have someone with GenIII experience around to help you. Did you take notes or digital pictures as you pulled the motor down? Some guys can do this stuff in their sleep. They could throw all the bolts in a big pile(not really a good idea) and pick them up one at a time and put the motor back together with no problem. You obviously are NOT at that level. Digital cameras are inexpensive and would have been a big help to you. You should have put #1 at TDC on the compression stroke before you started pulling your motor down. That way you start out at DOT to DOT. Most people don't do that and it isn't even suggested on LS1HowTo. There are 2 TDCs(as well as 2 BDCs) for every cylinder in the four stroke cycle. Are you even aware of that? It makes a difference. Ask for help ahead of time or do searches. This site has been around for years and every mistake that can be made has already been made and is documented here. All you have to do is look.
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Mar 2, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Not to be rude. But holy ****. He made a mistake. People make mistakes. He's not blaming anyone so get off his back a bit. He didn't come in here cussing people and making a fuss, he just realized he did something wrong and was trying to get a little input.
He could have spent 12 months on here searching and reading and still made a mistake on something. **** happens. That doesn't make him stupid.
The guys that can do this in there sleep, have done it over and over and over. Could they do it in there sleep the first time out? no. He's trying to learn and isn't putting the blame on anyone. I didn't realize you had to know every tid bit about and engine and pass a test for GM to be able to work on your own stuff.
There's people on here that do this **** for a Living. every day all day for years. and still ask for help with something they've done over and over again. Obviously not lining the dot on a cam, but stupid crap none the less.
I completely understand if your trying to give him tips on what he should do next time, but your making it sound like he's a complete idiot and shouldn't be touching a wrench until he can master the Rubiks cube. Everyone else that posted was trying to help not point and make fun for making a simple mistake. Good to see you never make mistakes. Congratulations.
He could have spent 12 months on here searching and reading and still made a mistake on something. **** happens. That doesn't make him stupid.
The guys that can do this in there sleep, have done it over and over and over. Could they do it in there sleep the first time out? no. He's trying to learn and isn't putting the blame on anyone. I didn't realize you had to know every tid bit about and engine and pass a test for GM to be able to work on your own stuff.
There's people on here that do this **** for a Living. every day all day for years. and still ask for help with something they've done over and over again. Obviously not lining the dot on a cam, but stupid crap none the less.
I completely understand if your trying to give him tips on what he should do next time, but your making it sound like he's a complete idiot and shouldn't be touching a wrench until he can master the Rubiks cube. Everyone else that posted was trying to help not point and make fun for making a simple mistake. Good to see you never make mistakes. Congratulations.
Mar 2, 2009 | 10:02 AM
#27
This isn't LS1Tech. We are here to help, not criticize. Everyone does make mistakes from time to time...
Lucky ain't the work for it. Do you even know how the four stroke cycle works? Do some reading and become better informed before you take on a job like this by yourself. Didn't you have someone with GenIII experience around to help you. Did you take notes or digital pictures as you pulled the motor down? Some guys can do this stuff in their sleep. They could throw all the bolts in a big pile(not really a good idea) and pick them up one at a time and put the motor back together with no problem. You obviously are NOT at that level. Digital cameras are inexpensive and would have been a big help to you. You should have put #1 at TDC on the compression stroke before you started pulling your motor down. That way you start out at DOT to DOT. Most people don't do that and it isn't even suggested on LS1HowTo. There are 2 TDCs(as well as 2 BDCs) for every cylinder in the four stroke cycle. Are you even aware of that? It makes a difference. Ask for help ahead of time or do searches. This site has been around for years and every mistake that can be made has already been made and is documented here. All you have to do is look.
Mar 2, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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