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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TXsilverado
the ls1 and 6.0's are essentially the same exact motors. the 6.0 was actually designed off of the ls1. your right about having more room to grow with the 6.0 boring and all that. being that the motors are the same minus cubes/material all the accessories bolt up the same exact way. no wiring harness differences assuming you use the truck intake. you can bolt the car accessories up to a 6.0, and the truck accessories up to a ls1. its all interchangable.

as for the power differences...im not really sure myself. from everything i heard GM under-rated the "claimed" power of the LS1 in the camaros at 310hp/340tq. why would they do that? one reason is so your avg person could afford insurance on the cars, and the other reason is so the power of the camaro didnt match/exceed the chevrolet flagship car....the corvette. the ls1 was the same exact motor as the vettes but it was tuned down and little factory restrictions were added that are easily removed. the vettes of the time were rated around 350hp with the same exact motor.

this is why i say choose whichever motor you can get for cheapest. chances are youll find a 6.0 for cheaper but in rare cases like mine a ls1 can be stole ($250 longblock including accessories etc /bragging) haha.
cam in the vette is where the ls1 in the vette is different then the one in the fbodys.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Quik
cam in the vette is where the ls1 in the vette is different then the one in the fbodys.
do you happen to know the size differences? i know the 98-99 camaros had the largest factory cams of the f-bodies, but then again they had the most restrictice exhaust manifolds too.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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The 6.0 will also be a much easier swap in terms of accessories and stuff like that.

you will be maxing out that engine more often and this is important if you ever plan on towing anything.


explain these two statements....


I am just trying to remember things as it was explained to me when I made the decision to go with a 6.0. Starting with the second question. Both engines are great but the 6.0 stock is set up for less HP at 300-325 and a little more torque at 360 than the ls1 at something like 350HP and 345-350 TQ. I know the TQ ratings are not that different but the 6.0 will do more power a little lower and not rev as high to do it which makes for more reliable towing over the long term. This is one of the reasons a stock LQ4 only has 300hp. This also eliminates the need to swap intakes as well.

I elected to go with the 6.0 for price, future buildup options (displacement and Iron) and because I have to turn 38.5 inch tires which takes having more torque in the lower rpm range pretty important.

Back to the first question, and I have not swapped an ls1 so I am not ab expert her nor do I pretend to be but I understand that the ls1 accessories are in different places and that might mean that he has to modify his harness or shift things around while with the 6.0 his current harness should just plug into everything. Again without clarification on what his project truck is specifically this is a bit of a guess on my part.

If I am wrong in my assumptions please let me know. I am the last person who wants to contribute to the spread of misinformation as it occurs over the web today.

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the lq4 of some make 315, stock fbody ls1 makes 305, also lq4 is 375tq fbody ls1 is what 345

as for wiring theres no difference and only difference for mounting accesorries are a couple holes that arent used or need tapped between the two motors
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TXsilverado
do you happen to know the size differences? i know the 98-99 camaros had the largest factory cams of the f-bodies, but then again they had the most restrictice exhaust manifolds too.
98-00 fbody had same cam that was more aggressive...the 01-02 received a lesser cam but better intake
the 97-98 vette had the most aggressive cam i beleive99-00 then 01 to current....the cams of the vette are very similar to that of the 6Litres. dont remember stock specs off top of my head and dont have the book near bye either.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Cool, thats for the update. I didn't realize that the accessories swapped over that easy and that all the plugs were the same.

That is good to know.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TXsilverado
if your running a comp grind cam heres a cool little tool found. just change the stuff up to match your motor. its set up for a LS1 at the moment

Step 1 put in your cam/ if you dont know the lift falues to put in go to the lobe source tab, find your lobe and follow it to the duration. the number to the right is the one you want to use(if you dont have your cam card handy).

http://www.alantripp.com/VE%20calcul...okup%20LS1.xls

i cant get this to open for some reason. do you have another link?
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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There's a certain feeling you get when you answer a "what's it got?" question with "Jussa lil o' threefiddy," but I'm biased. I'd honestly say go build the one that you can acquire the cheapest, and you can rest easy either way.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Here is a link you might want to see...

http://www.smokemup.com/tech/ls1.php
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ChevyThunder17
Here is a link you might want to see...

http://www.smokemup.com/tech/ls1.php
A lot of good info on the cam specs for various LS motors there!
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jshouse
i cant get this to open for some reason. do you have another link?
It's not a web site, it's a link to a file download. You need MS Excel to run the file. Do you have access to another computer with Excel?
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