converters. I have a set of o2 sims $80 shipped.

Thanks,
Derek

 

TOG headers is out of business. I have talked to their dealers and all said the same thing also called them directly and phone disconnected. Have a look at these...http://store.summitracing.com/defaul....asp&x=27&y=13

 

Doug's was bought out but the same product line is continued.
Question, how much better than the shortys do you really think these are? Worth it for me to dump my $700 JBA's?

 

Dont buy shorties!!

 

You're kinda late there but thanks anyway.....I have shortys now, am looking to upgrade. By the way, see the numbers in my sig, that's with the shorties so they're not all bad.

Remember I am in California, the penalty for altering the emmision equipment is very bad.
So how much low end torque can i get from a set of Doug's mid-tubes??

 

Remember I am in California, the penalty for altering the emmision equipment is very bad.
So how much low end torque can i get from a set of Doug's mid-tubes?? [/QUOTE]


Man I wish I could tell you how much Tq. you would pick up but I just don't know. I have the Dougs headers but I haven't put them on yet. They are very nice quality though , nice welds and thick *** flanges,o2 bungs welded in they have AIR and EGR and have a CARB #. I was sold ,and very good price too. I was going to buy some pacesetters and just swap out when smog time comes around. But F- that .With my badass luck I'd get pulled over for something and Johnny Law would like to see CARB stickers or some BS. When I was shopping for headers everyone one said don't get shorties. Well 2 weeks of searching for any "legal" mid or long tube stuff for us Cali boyz is when I found these. I hope this helps.

 

You know, I pulled up the Doug's headers on summit's website and they really looked like shorties to me... Unless I'm looking at the wrong ones, they're def shorties...

 

Shorties are shorter! I have the JBA's and they're almost the same length of the OEM manifold. The Mids are definately longer, but by how much?
If i had the $$ right now i'd just go for those supermaxx's man they look nice, and they have cats.

 

Hey fellas how do I post pics? I have a side by side comparision of the stock manifolds and Doug's headers. Not a shortie.

 

Are the supermaxx's California smog legal?