Who's got the best price on a new eaton LSD for me?
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Ok, going to be swapping out the G80 but holy cats batman the prices of lsd's are through the roof! When did that happen? I was reading old posts where guys were getting them for around or above $300 for a clutch type eaton. No trutrac for me, I had a torsen type posi in my Sonoma and HATED IT. So who's got the best price on them? Any ebay guys anyone wants to refer me to? Vendors wanna offer me a good deal?
I just want a new eaton clutch type posi for a good fair non-insane price.
I just want a new eaton clutch type posi for a good fair non-insane price.
#5
Might be the price of raw materials going up due to darn global economy. Or inflation in general. I can see the price of a rearend is going to cost an arm & a leg for transport( if say it's a Currie). Anyway, what was it that u dislike bout a TruTrac? I know for a fact I need a rear in my 89 C1500. The 04 will need one w/in a short time too.
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I'm sure people on this forum are sick of my tirade's but here goes another one:
The Torsen differential* is a purely mechanical device; it has no electronics, clutches or viscous fluids.
Everyone knew this already......
The Torsen (from Torque Sensing) works as an open differential when the amount of torque going to each wheel is equal. As soon as one wheel starts to lose traction, the difference in torque causes the gears in the Torsen differential to bind together. The design of the gears in the differential determines the torque bias ratio. For instance, if a particular Torsen differential is designed with a 5:1 bias ratio, it is capable of applying up to five times more torque to the wheel that has good traction.
Okay........But what if you're on ice, loose sand, greasy wet road??? When you actually need traction!!
Hummer!
The HMMWV, or Hummer, uses Torsen® differentials on the front and rear axles. The owner's manual for the Hummer proposes a novel solution to the problem of one wheel coming off the ground: Apply the brakes. By applying the brakes, torque is applied to the wheel that is in the air, and then five times that torque can go to the wheel with good traction.
Ok, this might work if I had an automatic trans that didn't require a foot of mine to be used for the clutch pedal or if I was at rock crawling speeds. I am concentrating on the gas and clutch too much and don't have a 3rd foot to apply the brakes.
However, if one set of wheels loses traction completely, the Torsen differential will be unable to supply any torque to the other set of wheels. The bias ratio determines how much torque can be transferred, and five times zero is zero.
Torsens have their times and place, but one of them is not for a guy with a manual transmission in a 2wd truck who often times goes offroad in sandy areas, on ice or snow or likes to blast the gas at a stoplight when it's raining outside. Point being this limited slip type differential flat out sucks when you have zero traction to the right rear wheel. Zero times a million foot lbs of torque is still zero! I had one of these in a 4 banger S10 and everytime I tried pulling a fishing boat through sand or driving through an ice storm, it was no better than a 1 wheel peel. I always found myself driving with the e brake on slightly just to add resistance to that wheel so I could create "fake traction".
The Torsen differential* is a purely mechanical device; it has no electronics, clutches or viscous fluids.
Everyone knew this already......
The Torsen (from Torque Sensing) works as an open differential when the amount of torque going to each wheel is equal. As soon as one wheel starts to lose traction, the difference in torque causes the gears in the Torsen differential to bind together. The design of the gears in the differential determines the torque bias ratio. For instance, if a particular Torsen differential is designed with a 5:1 bias ratio, it is capable of applying up to five times more torque to the wheel that has good traction.
Okay........But what if you're on ice, loose sand, greasy wet road??? When you actually need traction!!
Hummer!
The HMMWV, or Hummer, uses Torsen® differentials on the front and rear axles. The owner's manual for the Hummer proposes a novel solution to the problem of one wheel coming off the ground: Apply the brakes. By applying the brakes, torque is applied to the wheel that is in the air, and then five times that torque can go to the wheel with good traction.
Ok, this might work if I had an automatic trans that didn't require a foot of mine to be used for the clutch pedal or if I was at rock crawling speeds. I am concentrating on the gas and clutch too much and don't have a 3rd foot to apply the brakes.
However, if one set of wheels loses traction completely, the Torsen differential will be unable to supply any torque to the other set of wheels. The bias ratio determines how much torque can be transferred, and five times zero is zero.
Torsens have their times and place, but one of them is not for a guy with a manual transmission in a 2wd truck who often times goes offroad in sandy areas, on ice or snow or likes to blast the gas at a stoplight when it's raining outside. Point being this limited slip type differential flat out sucks when you have zero traction to the right rear wheel. Zero times a million foot lbs of torque is still zero! I had one of these in a 4 banger S10 and everytime I tried pulling a fishing boat through sand or driving through an ice storm, it was no better than a 1 wheel peel. I always found myself driving with the e brake on slightly just to add resistance to that wheel so I could create "fake traction".
#7
closest i found was this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EATON...mZ230109200976 another option would be the powertrax unit that replaces the spider gears.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EATON...mZ230109200976 another option would be the powertrax unit that replaces the spider gears.
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#8
Got it! Now, I'm rethinkin. I drive a lot of rain. Lot of snow, ice from say mid Dec - mid Mar. On the other hand, I could ease into gas from lights. I tend to have an aggressive driving style. Especially in summer, every lite is go time.

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