Transgo shift kit, 1st-2nd shift still too firm...
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Colby,
Yes, the accumulator uses the blue & orange spring. But the accumulator valve (in the valvebody) gives the option for a tiny white or tiny red spring, based on servo size. With a stock converter, vette servo, DX valve and 4.11 gears, the stock or red spring would be way to much.
Yes, the accumulator uses the blue & orange spring. But the accumulator valve (in the valvebody) gives the option for a tiny white or tiny red spring, based on servo size. With a stock converter, vette servo, DX valve and 4.11 gears, the stock or red spring would be way to much.
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Originally Posted by Colby 04
are you still running a spring on top of and underneath the piston? I thought I remember the stock piston just having a spring underneath it, nothing between the seperator plate and the piston though.
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Originally Posted by TeamTripp
Colby,
Yes, the accumulator uses the blue & orange spring. But the accumulator valve (in the valvebody) gives the option for a tiny white or tiny red spring, based on servo size. With a stock converter, vette servo, DX valve and 4.11 gears, the stock or red spring would be way to much.
Yes, the accumulator uses the blue & orange spring. But the accumulator valve (in the valvebody) gives the option for a tiny white or tiny red spring, based on servo size. With a stock converter, vette servo, DX valve and 4.11 gears, the stock or red spring would be way to much.
I'd rather put a stall convertor in than drop that valve body again just to change one spring
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This might be a stupid question, do you have a tune done on your truck? When you install the shift kit it raises line pressure and shift feel. If you have had it tuned you must put the trans pressure tables back to stock. With a stock tc yes you will feel the shifts more. Don't drop the valve body again to change the 1-2 acc valve spring. The lighter the spring the harder the shift. White is lighter with a harder shift. TRUST ME!!!! Are you sure that the acc valve sleeve was installed the same way it came out of the valve body. It can be installed upside down blocking the accumulation. Resulting in a hard shift. Good luck...
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Originally Posted by da wrench
This might be a stupid question, do you have a tune done on your truck? When you install the shift kit it raises line pressure and shift feel. If you have had it tuned you must put the trans pressure tables back to stock. With a stock tc yes you will feel the shifts more. Don't drop the valve body again to change the 1-2 acc valve spring. The lighter the spring the harder the shift. White is lighter with a harder shift. TRUST ME!!!! Are you sure that the acc valve sleeve was installed the same way it came out of the valve body. It can be installed upside down blocking the accumulation. Resulting in a hard shift. Good luck...
I do have a performance tune on the truck, but after installing the shift kit I ran the stock PCM. I sent my tune off, had it updated with stock line pressure and now have it installed. It shifted just as firm with the stock tune. It shifts pretty good now with no washers in the accumulator
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Lighter springs (white) will soften the rate at which the valve allows accumulation fluid exhaust. The accumulator valve is held in the MAX position by Torque Signal fluid and spring pressure. Orificed accumulator fluid will try and push the valve in the other direction, allowing for it become exhausted, softening the shift. A stiffer spring, or increase in Torque Signal fluid means the valve can't move as far, which lessens the amount of accumulator fluid exhausting, firming up the shift.
TransGo give you a white and red spring, depending on what servo you use. The 553 servo has less clamping force, so they tell you to use the red spring, to make it "feel" firmer. The 093 (Vette) servo has more clamping force, so they tell you to use the white spring, to make it feel as firm as the 553 w/ the red spring. They become "matched sets", making for consistant shifts w/ different setups.
So if you installed the RED spring and used the 093 (vette) servo, you used too stiff of a spring.
TransGo give you a white and red spring, depending on what servo you use. The 553 servo has less clamping force, so they tell you to use the red spring, to make it "feel" firmer. The 093 (Vette) servo has more clamping force, so they tell you to use the white spring, to make it feel as firm as the 553 w/ the red spring. They become "matched sets", making for consistant shifts w/ different setups.
So if you installed the RED spring and used the 093 (vette) servo, you used too stiff of a spring.
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Lighter springs (white) will soften the rate at which the valve allows accumulation fluid exhaust. The accumulator valve is held in the MAX position by Torque Signal fluid and spring pressure. Orificed accumulator fluid will try and push the valve in the other direction, allowing for it become exhausted, softening the shift. A stiffer spring, or increase in Torque Signal fluid means the valve can't move as far, which lessens the amount of accumulator fluid exhausting, firming up the shift.
TransGo give you a white and red spring, depending on what servo you use. The 553 servo has less clamping force, so they tell you to use the red spring, to make it "feel" firmer. The 093 (Vette) servo has more clamping force, so they tell you to use the white spring, to make it feel as firm as the 553 w/ the red spring. They become "matched sets", making for consistant shifts w/ different setups.
So if you installed the RED spring and used the 093 (vette) servo, you used too stiff of a spring.
TransGo give you a white and red spring, depending on what servo you use. The 553 servo has less clamping force, so they tell you to use the red spring, to make it "feel" firmer. The 093 (Vette) servo has more clamping force, so they tell you to use the white spring, to make it feel as firm as the 553 w/ the red spring. They become "matched sets", making for consistant shifts w/ different setups.
So if you installed the RED spring and used the 093 (vette) servo, you used too stiff of a spring.
Also could you guys take a look at my other transgo thread and see if you can answer my other transgo shift kit questions please https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...d.php?t=361500
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Originally Posted by TeamTripp
Lighter springs (white) will soften the rate at which the valve allows accumulation fluid exhaust. The accumulator valve is held in the MAX position by Torque Signal fluid and spring pressure. Orificed accumulator fluid will try and push the valve in the other direction, allowing for it become exhausted, softening the shift. A stiffer spring, or increase in Torque Signal fluid means the valve can't move as far, which lessens the amount of accumulator fluid exhausting, firming up the shift.
TransGo give you a white and red spring, depending on what servo you use. The 553 servo has less clamping force, so they tell you to use the red spring, to make it "feel" firmer. The 093 (Vette) servo has more clamping force, so they tell you to use the white spring, to make it feel as firm as the 553 w/ the red spring. They become "matched sets", making for consistant shifts w/ different setups.
So if you installed the RED spring and used the 093 (vette) servo, you used too stiff of a spring.
TransGo give you a white and red spring, depending on what servo you use. The 553 servo has less clamping force, so they tell you to use the red spring, to make it "feel" firmer. The 093 (Vette) servo has more clamping force, so they tell you to use the white spring, to make it feel as firm as the 553 w/ the red spring. They become "matched sets", making for consistant shifts w/ different setups.
So if you installed the RED spring and used the 093 (vette) servo, you used too stiff of a spring.
I didn't see any specs that told me to use the white spring with the vette servo - it could very well be that I wasn't aware the vette servo is the "093"...
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Originally Posted by 1slow01Z71
Ill tell you as my trans guy told me he can put the same stuff in two transmissions and one will slam your head against the dash board and the other will be close to stock. You just have to "tune" it to your app.
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