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90K miles. Should i change the trans oil ?

Old Mar 19, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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'05 RCSB 5.3 2WD Stock beside specter CAI, Checked my trans oil and it's darkish red, not bright red as a new oil.

should i change it? car shift A-OK.

Also when i got the car @88K miles the oil was bright red and now its darker, i rarely get hard on it, is this normal?
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 01:50 PM
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You can change it but its likely that the trans is gonna die if its never been changed.

Some get lucky. If it were me id just keep on driving.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ali 556
Hi,

'05 RCSB 5.3 2WD Stock beside specter CAI, Checked my trans oil and it's darkish red, not bright red as a new oil.

should i change it? car shift A-OK.

Also when i got the car @88K miles the oil was bright red and now its darker, i rarely get hard on it, is this normal?
My guess is someone changed it right before you got it (prob why is was bright red). As you drive all the other oil in the tranny that didn't get changed (about 7 more quarts of dirty oil), has gradually mixed in with the fresh stuff (5 quarts) turning it darker.

I would just drive it too, but it wouldn't hurt to change it again and get a new filter. I think it takes around 5 quarts just in the pan, and around 11 for a total rebuild of a 4L60 and 8/14 quarts for a 4L80.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pittman
My guess is someone changed it right before you got it (prob why is was bright red). As you drive all the other oil in the tranny that didn't get changed (about 7 more quarts of dirty oil), has gradually mixed in with the fresh stuff (5 quarts) turning it darker.

I would just drive it too, but it wouldn't hurt to change it again and get a new filter. I think it takes around 5 quarts just in the pan, and around 11 for a total rebuild of a 4L60 and 8/14 quarts for a 4L80.
No, i know the PO and he had the truck for more than 8 months and only changed the engine oil.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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Its better to be safe than sorry,
I would change it IMO
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 04:30 PM
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ok,

lets say i'm going to change the oil. what type do you guys recommend, car is 2wd and its a DD.

while i'm at it i'm going to install trucool cooler and should i change the pan for bigger/deeper one or the stock will be enough?
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 05:33 PM
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NO. Don't change it.

If you change it at this point you will likely remove what's holding the clutches together. Many many many transmissions that were not properly maintained worked right up until someone decided that changing the fluid 50,000 miles past it's expiration date would be a good idea.

Pretty much the old fluid has developed a friction material suspension and this keeps the clutches biting when applied. New fluid doesn't have this.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Suburbazine
NO. Don't change it.

If you change it at this point you will likely remove what's holding the clutches together. Many many many transmissions that were not properly maintained worked right up until someone decided that changing the fluid 50,000 miles past it's expiration date would be a good idea.

Pretty much the old fluid has developed a friction material suspension and this keeps the clutches biting when applied. New fluid doesn't have this.
Wow this is scary to read , but I can see your reasoning , maybe this is why the trans in my dads burb is still going , it's very dark and I've been contemplating changing it for him , maybe I won't and will just find him an 80e for when it dies.
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Old Mar 19, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Suburbazine
NO. Don't change it.

If you change it at this point you will likely remove what's holding the clutches together. Many many many transmissions that were not properly maintained worked right up until someone decided that changing the fluid 50,000 miles past it's expiration date would be a good idea.

Pretty much the old fluid has developed a friction material suspension and this keeps the clutches biting when applied. New fluid doesn't have this.

Seen this happen several times in person. Leave it as is and drive it. If the fluid changed color as u described it may be on it way out.
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 08:24 AM
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Happened to me after I changed fluid in a 94 blazer that I bought 10 yrs ago. It wouldnt lock up into overdrive after I changed fluid/filter. I say leave it.
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