GM Drivetrain & Suspension Chassis | Transmission| Driveshaft | Gears/Rear End/Differential | Traction Aids

4L80E lost 2nd gear

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:39 PM
  #1  
thunder550's Avatar
Thread Starter
High on diesel fumes
iTrader: (70)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 12,658
Likes: 3
From: Phoenix, AZ
Default 4L80E lost 2nd gear

My 4L80E lost second tonight on a WOT 1-2 shift. It slammed like it always does on the 1-2 shift, then released and hit the rev limiter. 1, 3, and 4 work fine. Lockup works fine. 2nd doesn't work in any gear position, including manual hold 2nd. Trans is vacuum modulated, and has the full manual 1-2 valve body by TransTec.

Any ideas?
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2008 | 11:41 PM
  #2  
dirt track racer 81's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 9,439
Likes: 13
From: Hennessey, Oklahoma
Default

dont have any idea but i bet your gonna have to pull it..have fun..trans problems suck..
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:07 AM
  #3  
Stoichiometric's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,199
Likes: 0
From: Way out there
Default

Sorry to hear that. How many miles are on it? By full manual valve body you mean you need to physically shift it yourself?
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:13 AM
  #4  
James B.'s Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,985
Likes: 3
From: 33.91° -117.48°
Default

Intermediate Sprag gets my vote. It's between the direct clutch housing and the center support.



Tone down those shifts, slamming clutches is bad.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:19 AM
  #5  
thunder550's Avatar
Thread Starter
High on diesel fumes
iTrader: (70)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 12,658
Likes: 3
From: Phoenix, AZ
Default

It's vacuum modulated, I can't adjust the shift pressures. My builder set them and I haven't touched them.

By full manual 1-2 I mean that if I put the selector in 1 or 2, it goes not matter what. Even if I'm doing 120mph....put the selector in 1 and you're going for a wild ride
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:21 AM
  #6  
Stoichiometric's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,199
Likes: 0
From: Way out there
Default

Originally Posted by James B.
Tone down those shifts, slamming clutches is bad.
James,
If you have large holes drilled in the separator plate and an otherwise agressively set up transmission, can you accomplish this with your commanded line pressure in the tune?
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:41 AM
  #7  
James B.'s Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,985
Likes: 3
From: 33.91° -117.48°
Default

Originally Posted by Stoichiometric
James,
If you have large holes drilled in the separator plate and an otherwise agressively set up transmission, can you accomplish this with your commanded line pressure in the tune?
For a transmission where the PCM is still in command of line pressure, sure... but only to a point. You would not want line pressure to have to be so low that other already-engaged clutches have a hard time holding.
A vaccuum-modulated unit can be modified by restricting the feed hold in the separator plate. (Not easy) I've hit one with a MIG at very low power to accomplish this, but any spatter sticking to the plate in other areas can cause gasket blowout and trans failure. Plate warps easily too.
A higher-stalling torque converter softens shifts too.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:50 AM
  #8  
kbracing96's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,485
Likes: 31
From: Oakland, OR
Default

I was with him when it happened. By loosing 2nd, what he is referring to is that it shifts like there is no second, stays in first till it's going fast enough to shift in to third, even if you manually put it in to second, just stays in first. When it does finally shift from 1st to 3rd, it shifts really hard. Right Chris?
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:47 AM
  #9  
53RUSSELL's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 0
From: AJ, AZ
Default

Chris sorry to hear that you are having trans problems.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 10:49 AM
  #10  
ZZebes's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,111
Likes: 1
Default

Oh great another broken 4l80e thread

****
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:26 AM.