whipples now intercooled?
#1
im not too sure what this means but could some one explain it:
copied form whipplesuperchargers.com:
LIQUID INTERCOOLING:
While other superchargers such as roots-type superchargers require an intercooler, the Whipple twin-screw supercharger produces far less heat making intercooling only an option for more power versus a necessity for reliability. Whipple’s new kits offer the new “liquid intercooling setup” which allows the system to run higher spark advances and more air flow under the most harsh conditions.
This process is achieved by injecting the proper amount of fuel through the supercharger under boost conditions. This phenomenon is known as a chemical intercooler. This lowers the overall discharge temperature nearly 50°F for even more power. While the fuel gets compressed with the air charge inside the compressor, the fuel goes from a liquid state to a gaseous state. This phase change creates an intercooling effect, which reduces the discharge temperature.
is this really an intercooler or just them rewording it and making it seem like there is?
the 99-02 version is not like this and very different
copied form whipplesuperchargers.com:
LIQUID INTERCOOLING:
While other superchargers such as roots-type superchargers require an intercooler, the Whipple twin-screw supercharger produces far less heat making intercooling only an option for more power versus a necessity for reliability. Whipple’s new kits offer the new “liquid intercooling setup” which allows the system to run higher spark advances and more air flow under the most harsh conditions.
This process is achieved by injecting the proper amount of fuel through the supercharger under boost conditions. This phenomenon is known as a chemical intercooler. This lowers the overall discharge temperature nearly 50°F for even more power. While the fuel gets compressed with the air charge inside the compressor, the fuel goes from a liquid state to a gaseous state. This phase change creates an intercooling effect, which reduces the discharge temperature.
is this really an intercooler or just them rewording it and making it seem like there is?
the 99-02 version is not like this and very different
#2
This process is achieved by injecting the proper amount of fuel through the supercharger under boost conditions. This phenomenon is known as a chemical intercooler. This lowers the overall discharge temperature nearly 50°F for even more power. While the fuel gets compressed with the air charge inside the compressor, the fuel goes from a liquid state to a gaseous state. This phase change creates an intercooling effect, which reduces the discharge temperature.
#3
thats what i kinda thought too but i read on in their article on their website and from what i gather that is the only method of fueling, no more fuel injectors because they figured out that the gm truck intake manifold doesnt flow evenly to all cylinders(they just now figuring that out?)
entire advertisement/article:
2004-2005 5.3, 6.0, 6.0HO Whipple Chargers
NOW SHIPPING WITH NEW FEATURES AND MORE PERFORMANCE
New for 04’-05’, Whipple offers a revolutionary supercharger system for the GM 5.3 and 6.0 engines equipped in today’s GM’s trucks, Avalanche, Suburban, Denali and Escalades. The all-new systems boast Whipple’s own liquid intercooling, state-of-the-art air intake system, engine guardian system and Whipple Power Flash Programmer for the factory ECU recalibration. While others claim, Whipple Superchargers simply deliver more power per pound of boost than any other supercharger on the market today.
LIQUID INTERCOOLING:
While other superchargers such as roots-type superchargers require an intercooler, the Whipple twin-screw supercharger produces far less heat making intercooling only an option for more power versus a necessity for reliability. Whipple’s new kits offer the new “liquid intercooling setup” which allows the system to run higher spark advances and more air flow under the most harsh conditions.
This process is achieved by injecting the proper amount of fuel through the supercharger under boost conditions. This phenomenon is known as a chemical intercooler. This lowers the overall discharge temperature nearly 50°F for even more power. While the fuel gets compressed with the air charge inside the compressor, the fuel goes from a liquid state to a gaseous state. This phase change creates an intercooling effect, which reduces the discharge temperature.
OPTIMUM FUEL CONTOROL:
Whipple Superchargers are the far most experts in EFI fuel control. With the use of countless dyno hours and the most accurate wide band UEGO sensors in every cylinder, it was found that the factory GM manifold has unequal distribution from the factory. A problem that is exaggerated with large fuel injectors at the factory locations. Other supercharger companies claim to be experts but don’t even own 8 wide range UEGO sensors, yet make incredibly false claims regarding distribution.
Systems that replace the factory fuel injectors and some that replace the entire intake manifold have very uneven fuel and air distribution. What’s this mean? This means you have to either tune to the leanest cylinder or produce lower power levels by reducing spark advance and boost.
Whipple’s new system fires a precise amount of fuel through the supercharger. Once it enters the compressor, the fuel gets compressed with the air charge within the compressor housing. This prepares the air and fuel together for proper fuel atomization. The air and fuel then fill each cylinder evenly under pressure (boost). The Whipple system has the most even cylinder-to-cylinder distribution on the market, which allows Whipple’s to produce more peak horsepower, better fuel economy and increased reliability when compared to other systems. Click to see the true air fuel comparison.
WHIPPLE AIR INTAKE SYSTEM:
The new Whipple air intake system was designed for maximum airflow while protecting from power robbing heat. The factory filter system is very restrictive and limits your total power output while most of today’s aftermarket air intake systems use open element filters which actually rob horsepower from the increased air temps of the engine compartment. The Whipple system uses a high flow air filter and plastic plenum that helps increase air speeds, reduce air turbulence and protect from power robbing heat. Click to see the new Whipple air intake system.
ENGINE GUARDIAN:
Only Whipple Superchargers offer an engine guardian system to help protect your investment. The factory PCM was designed to work with a stock, unsupercharged engine so it’s protection system cannot control boost pressure. The Whipple Engine Guardian system monitors the factory oxygen sensors, if the sensor detects a lean air/fuel mixture under open loop operation, the guardian system opens the air-bypass valve and lowers the engine boost to a safer level. This helps prevent harmful engine damage if a problem occurs. The factory PCM is also reconfigured for the proper knock detection settings for boosted operation.
WHIPPLE SUPERCHARGERS EXCLUSIVE FEATURES:
Twin screw Whipple Supercharger
Most efficient supercharger on the market
No “ancient” rising rate fuel pressure regulator
Up to 50% horsepower increase
Up to 50% torque increase throughout entire RPM range
Instant boost at the touch of the throttle
Flat torque curve for excellent towing power
Incredible acceleration and top end power
Whipple Superchargers air-bypass system
Self-contained lubrication system
High flow air filter system
Flash programmer for gear/tire/MPH modification
50-State Emissions Legal
All parts meet or exceed OEM specifications
Active boost control for unsurpassed reliability
No internal modifications
Completed installation looks factory installed
Kits come complete with all necessary parts and hardware for installation
1 year warranty
All prices subject to change without notice
Major kit components are pre-assembled for easy installation
entire advertisement/article:
2004-2005 5.3, 6.0, 6.0HO Whipple Chargers
NOW SHIPPING WITH NEW FEATURES AND MORE PERFORMANCE
New for 04’-05’, Whipple offers a revolutionary supercharger system for the GM 5.3 and 6.0 engines equipped in today’s GM’s trucks, Avalanche, Suburban, Denali and Escalades. The all-new systems boast Whipple’s own liquid intercooling, state-of-the-art air intake system, engine guardian system and Whipple Power Flash Programmer for the factory ECU recalibration. While others claim, Whipple Superchargers simply deliver more power per pound of boost than any other supercharger on the market today.
LIQUID INTERCOOLING:
While other superchargers such as roots-type superchargers require an intercooler, the Whipple twin-screw supercharger produces far less heat making intercooling only an option for more power versus a necessity for reliability. Whipple’s new kits offer the new “liquid intercooling setup” which allows the system to run higher spark advances and more air flow under the most harsh conditions.
This process is achieved by injecting the proper amount of fuel through the supercharger under boost conditions. This phenomenon is known as a chemical intercooler. This lowers the overall discharge temperature nearly 50°F for even more power. While the fuel gets compressed with the air charge inside the compressor, the fuel goes from a liquid state to a gaseous state. This phase change creates an intercooling effect, which reduces the discharge temperature.
OPTIMUM FUEL CONTOROL:
Whipple Superchargers are the far most experts in EFI fuel control. With the use of countless dyno hours and the most accurate wide band UEGO sensors in every cylinder, it was found that the factory GM manifold has unequal distribution from the factory. A problem that is exaggerated with large fuel injectors at the factory locations. Other supercharger companies claim to be experts but don’t even own 8 wide range UEGO sensors, yet make incredibly false claims regarding distribution.
Systems that replace the factory fuel injectors and some that replace the entire intake manifold have very uneven fuel and air distribution. What’s this mean? This means you have to either tune to the leanest cylinder or produce lower power levels by reducing spark advance and boost.
Whipple’s new system fires a precise amount of fuel through the supercharger. Once it enters the compressor, the fuel gets compressed with the air charge within the compressor housing. This prepares the air and fuel together for proper fuel atomization. The air and fuel then fill each cylinder evenly under pressure (boost). The Whipple system has the most even cylinder-to-cylinder distribution on the market, which allows Whipple’s to produce more peak horsepower, better fuel economy and increased reliability when compared to other systems. Click to see the true air fuel comparison.
WHIPPLE AIR INTAKE SYSTEM:
The new Whipple air intake system was designed for maximum airflow while protecting from power robbing heat. The factory filter system is very restrictive and limits your total power output while most of today’s aftermarket air intake systems use open element filters which actually rob horsepower from the increased air temps of the engine compartment. The Whipple system uses a high flow air filter and plastic plenum that helps increase air speeds, reduce air turbulence and protect from power robbing heat. Click to see the new Whipple air intake system.
ENGINE GUARDIAN:
Only Whipple Superchargers offer an engine guardian system to help protect your investment. The factory PCM was designed to work with a stock, unsupercharged engine so it’s protection system cannot control boost pressure. The Whipple Engine Guardian system monitors the factory oxygen sensors, if the sensor detects a lean air/fuel mixture under open loop operation, the guardian system opens the air-bypass valve and lowers the engine boost to a safer level. This helps prevent harmful engine damage if a problem occurs. The factory PCM is also reconfigured for the proper knock detection settings for boosted operation.
WHIPPLE SUPERCHARGERS EXCLUSIVE FEATURES:
Twin screw Whipple Supercharger
Most efficient supercharger on the market
No “ancient” rising rate fuel pressure regulator
Up to 50% horsepower increase
Up to 50% torque increase throughout entire RPM range
Instant boost at the touch of the throttle
Flat torque curve for excellent towing power
Incredible acceleration and top end power
Whipple Superchargers air-bypass system
Self-contained lubrication system
High flow air filter system
Flash programmer for gear/tire/MPH modification
50-State Emissions Legal
All parts meet or exceed OEM specifications
Active boost control for unsurpassed reliability
No internal modifications
Completed installation looks factory installed
Kits come complete with all necessary parts and hardware for installation
1 year warranty
All prices subject to change without notice
Major kit components are pre-assembled for easy installation
#5
ok just wondering cause i saw a thread a while back that said that whipple was going to come out with intercooled/on manifold supercharger kits "in a few months"
seems like they just reworded their website description in the meantime
seems like they just reworded their website description in the meantime
#6
They have a A2W intercooler for the 8.1L's, just not the small blocks. I can tell you that when they say thier blowers dont need intercoolers because they are so efficient.......thats CRAP! I went from 225* IATs in 45* ambient temps at WOT without my intercooler.....down to 85* IATs in 55* ambient temps at WOT with the intercooler.
#7
It sounds to me like they've added the chemical intercooler (just like injecting meth, only instead using fuel) to help richen up the lean cylinders. From the list of "features" I don't see a new lower intake manifold, so they probably did this instead of including a new lower intake to keep costs down.
Other kits like the Magnacharger comes with a new lower intake manifold with redesigned ports that would correct the unequal flow to each cylinder. I would have to say Magnuson recognized this from the beginning and ruled out those issues from the start with a new intake rather than band-aid it by injecting fuel into the supercharger.
Other kits like the Magnacharger comes with a new lower intake manifold with redesigned ports that would correct the unequal flow to each cylinder. I would have to say Magnuson recognized this from the beginning and ruled out those issues from the start with a new intake rather than band-aid it by injecting fuel into the supercharger.
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#8
ive read enough on here to know that any type of forced induction NEEDS an intercooler to run at 5psi or more and id like to run 8psi via supercharger on a lq4
i havent heard of any but do you think the A2W for the 8.1L would work on the small blocks
i havent heard of any but do you think the A2W for the 8.1L would work on the small blocks
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