Hey, just a thought. I am looking at a sts kit that is non-ic, is this going to be less turbo lag than a IC setup. It seems like the longer pipes for an IC will take more time to spool up, but produce more power once it hits. The non-IC will be quicker, but not as much of a power hit?? Am I wrong, or am I blowing steam out my ***.

cory

 

No you'd be right. you lose about between 1-3 psi across an intercooler as well. You'd have less lag but your IAT would be alot higher which can be controlled by using meth. For DD'ing application I would suggest an IC. Just think of an IC as a big void space that has to be pressurized prior to your engine seeing the boost . Granted it fills up rather fast but without it there your engine would see boost that much faster.
On a side note most of your boost lose across your intercooler is due to the change in density of your charge and not because you magically lose boost pressure.

 

Go with the IC version. Having a intercooler on your setup is much better than not having one.

 

would you mind clearing that statement up?

 

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ai...ity-d_771.html

Good link for quick reference. As density increases pressure decreases. There are some frictional losses from the intercooler also.

 

i understand the frictional losses.....but the other part is just the opposite of what I thought. Interesting, I guess it makes sense....now that I noodle it.

Julien you are my hero.....fuggabunchofturbos

 

As long as your waste gate ref line is at the intake manifold, you will not see ANY drop in pressure. I ran no charge cooler for quite a few months before getting my e-bay cooler, at which point I never notice any lag increase. not saying it doesn't increase lag, but the about is un-noticeable... or I can't remember it lol.....

Also, even though the density has increase and pressure decreased. (mostly do to the slower cooler moving air in the charge air cooler), the spring in the waste gate still relies on pressure to operate, so if your ref line is after the charge cooler you peak boost pressure will not change.

 

I guess I needed to rethink "turbo" for a second.

 

I dont this that you really need to worry about loosing power because of running a IC. As Spoolin said it is much safer reliable and it will also give you more room to grow if you ever step up your setup.

And Inter Coolers must be the way to go because Magna Chargers come with them.....>Right Blown

 

Intercoolers are the way to go because they provide better performance