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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SynergyV8
If it were my motor, I'd stick with the GT2-3 cam you have. Talk about a monster idle-6000 cam in the 408!
I like the GT2-3 too, and planning on using it in my 5.3L rebuild...but, u can't pick a cam without first knowing exactly what valvetrain & heads are in the build. The goals u set out for driveability and performance, as well as CR and boost will be bigger determinants of the mating of valves, springs, lifters and ultimately heads. The cut of the valves and spring rate have a huge impact on maximizing power from any given cam - they will determine where u make ur power along the curve. Rex & Richard should be able to help u as well as many others prob, but Comp, Lunati, ...etc, will have done much of this work and will recommend a valve train package to mate with most of the cams in their catalogue. Do some homework here, don't just take someone's word for it. If ur gonna use the AFR heads u already have, get the specs on the valves & springs, then see what cam will maximize their design given ur goals & application - or consider changing those pieces to match up. R/

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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Yeah I plan to get with the cam companies before I actually buy the cam.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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If I understand this correctly, thunderwagen, don't you already have the GT2-3 cam in your boosted 6.0L now? It is my understanding this 408ci build is only changing the rotating assembly, thus the displacement under the heads, correct? Why does there need to be a significant redesign of the valvetrain and top end if what you have is already working? Perhaps I'm missing something...?
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilde Racing
Synergyv8 you sold me, now where can I find these T6 hypereutectic pistons for a LS engine?
Shoot me a PM, I'm not sure what motor you're building.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SynergyV8
If I understand this correctly, thunderwagen, don't you already have the GT2-3 cam in your boosted 6.0L now? It is my understanding this 408ci build is only changing the rotating assembly, thus the displacement under the heads, correct? Why does there need to be a significant redesign of the valvetrain and top end if what you have is already working? Perhaps I'm missing something...?
Not saying it won't work, just if you want to get the best combination/maximize the potential of the system, then you don't just throw darts and hope for the best. The testing has been done by the cam co's to tellyou what valve train works best with what cam. Duration and lift will dictate springs & rate or u might find that going with 1.70 v 1.65 rocker and getting additional .015 lift might get u that extra bit ur system needs. And all that is precluded by the assumption the AFR's were bot with the same RPM assumptions. By doing this prep work it could make a significant RWHP difference as I'm currently working on myself. He might find that a larger intake valve and easing of the heads will work better with the same cam in bigger displacement - or even in the same motor with that cam. Its all quantifiable. Of course u can do nothing and go with what u have and it'll work perfectly well. Its lots cheaper to do this now than later - cause we all know you always want more! R/
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SynergyV8
Shoot me a PM, I'm not sure what motor you're building.
I'm not building, already been done... I would just like to know what piston co offers pistons T6 pistons for our (LSx) engines....
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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The reason for cam change is the GT2-3 is more of a blower cam and if I still had a magnacharger I would more than likely leave it. I also feel it is a little on the small side for a 408. I think there will be a more optimal cam for a 408 turbo application than what I already have.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thunderwagen
Believe me I know all about murphys law with this truck. The only plug and play thing I have ever done to the truck was the Radix. After that I broke more stuff and spent more money than I ever thought I would. And after going turbo I have gone through two different setups and fought little problems the whole way. I don't expect it to be trouble free or snap together like leggos. Im not building it myself. I am between going to LME, HKE, and having Rex build it.
REX is the Man... I have a 410 with 23X/23X WCCH 245cc heads.. the engine and valve train sound stock under the hood.. I run 15/40 and now 10/30 in the winter and have 55-60psi @ idle and over 85 WOT ... I have never thought about getting a Built longblock or shortblock But My WCCH Engine built my Rex is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and top Notch Service !!
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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There is no reason that a stroker motor should burn oil if the builder knows what he is doing. I've had a Rex 408 and now a 403 and have had ZERO oil burning issues. The first one died because the turbo was too small and I spun it up too much. Heat and backpressure killed it.

If I were to do it over again, I'd run a 402. Don't mess with the boring of the block unless it's necessary to clean up the cylinder walls. You are not going to miss 6 cubic inches. My setup is about 9.4:1 and seems to be a pretty good combination for street manners and boostability (new word! ) I'm running a 220/222-580/580-114+1 cam spec'ed by Richard @ WCCH and could not be happier with the combination of power and driveability. I only spin my engine up to about 5600 RPM, and with the GT4202 turbo I run I am making full boost by about 2600 RPM. You can imagine what the torque curve for that would look like.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder550
There is no reason that a stroker motor should burn oil if the builder knows what he is doing. I've had a Rex 408 and now a 403 and have had ZERO oil burning issues. The first one died because the turbo was too small and I spun it up too much. Heat and backpressure killed it.

If I were to do it over again, I'd run a 402. Don't mess with the boring of the block unless it's necessary to clean up the cylinder walls. You are not going to miss 6 cubic inches. My setup is about 9.4:1 and seems to be a pretty good combination for street manners and boostability (new word! ) I'm running a 220/222-580/580-114+1 cam spec'ed by Richard @ WCCH and could not be happier with the combination of power and driveability. I only spin my engine up to about 5600 RPM, and with the GT4202 turbo I run I am making full boost by about 2600 RPM. You can imagine what the torque curve for that would look like.
Werent oil "burning" issues the reason your truck was photographed on a trailer behind Kyles truck? lol
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