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Old Dec 29, 2025 | 01:45 PM
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I have a 2012 L96 6.0. I had it bored out 0.030". I installed flat top pistons with valve reliefs. Im running a stock head gasket with stock GM 823 heads. I installed a Texas speed LS L92 truck cam. Specs 220/232 0.600 lift 112LSA. Long tube headers and 3 inch exhaust. I had it tuned by Blackbear.
The truck often dies when flirting with the throttle like when backing into a spot or slow moving in traffic. It also bucks at low rpm lugging. At full throttle it struggles and feels like it should run better. I have contacted blackbear multiple times with data l logs and they said every thing is normal. I have replaced wires, coils and plugs. I have replaced mass air, o2 sensors, manifold pressure sensor, cam position sensor and the crabk position sensor. I'm no tuner but would love to learn. I hooked up my EFI live today and watched the spark advance. Im running 92 octane.
I took a video with my phone of the v3 screen.
In park idle 730 rpm jumps from 16-21 Spark advance.
1100 rpms 47 spark advance
1500 rpms 47.5 spark advance
3118 47.5
In drive holding brake
1039 rpm 44.5
1256 rpm 45.6
​1480 rpm 44
1672 rpm 42.5
1962 rpm 41.5
2038 rpm 41.5
Air fuel ratio 14-1
Seems Spark advance may be to blame.
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Old Dec 29, 2025 | 02:37 PM
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Seems Spark advance may be to blame.
How so? Looks pretty normal to me.

Your symptoms sound more like a vacuum leak affecting idle and/or injectors need cleaned affecting WOT etc. Maybe even a fuel pressure problem.
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Old Dec 29, 2025 | 03:07 PM
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How so? Looks pretty normal to me.

Your symptoms sound more like a vacuum leak affecting idle and/or injectors need cleaned affecting WOT etc. Maybe even a fuel pressure problem.
47 degrees BTDC isn't to much?
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Old Dec 29, 2025 | 04:01 PM
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No. Sounds fine to me. In old mechanical distributors, we'd shoot for about 36° or so at full power, and about 10 - 12° more cruising; so what you have sounds pretty much ... normal. What one should expect even.

What makes you think it's a problem?
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Old Dec 29, 2025 | 05:17 PM
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No. Sounds fine to me. In old mechanical distributors, we'd shoot for about 36° or so at full power, and about 10 - 12° more cruising; so what you have sounds pretty much ... normal. What one should expect even.

What makes you think it's a problem?
Well the bucking at low rpm lugging makes me think its ignition related. I pull a 7000 lb camper and I can feel it bucking at wot. I have cutouts on it and I can hear the stumble in the exhaust when its bucking with the cutouts open. I did a little more data logging and found it runs at 14.11-1 AFR pretty much all the time except at WOT it runs at 11.9-1 AFR. Is this normal?
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Well the bucking at low rpm lugging makes me think its ignition related. I pull a 7000 lb camper and I can feel it bucking at wot. I have cutouts on it and I can hear the stumble in the exhaust when its bucking with the cutouts open. I did a little more data logging and found it runs at 14.11-1 AFR pretty much all the time except at WOT it runs at 11.9-1 AFR. Is this normal?
Have you discussed it with Black Bear? Have you sent him any logs since?
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Have you discussed it with Black Bear? Have you sent him any logs since?
Yes I sent multiple data logs back to blackbear and he said all looked normal but more power could be made. Not sure what that means.
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Originally Posted by RB04Av
No. Sounds fine to me. In old mechanical distributors, we'd shoot for about 36° or so at full power, and about 10 - 12° more cruising; so what you have sounds pretty much ... normal. What one should expect even.

What makes you think it's a problem?
Also when it bucks the KR is 0 I have never seen the KR change from 0° could the knock sensors be the problem?
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Originally Posted by 5.3oilchugger
47 degrees BTDC isn't to much?
47* at lighter engine loads is fine.

Can you email your tune and datalogs?
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