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Old 08-23-2009, 10:55 PM
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I've been logging my truck so much that I've noticing trends as I'm trying to figure out why my truck keeps detonating a lot at WOT.

1) In normal driving and WOT, bank 1 is always leaner than bank 2 (at WOT bank 1 is usually .30 mV lower and on normal driving LTFTs for bank 1 are always usually a little more positive i.e. 1.6% versus .8% for bank 2). Is this normal or is something going on here?

2)I've noticed that at WOT my truck only detonates over ~3900-4000 rpms. If I am WOT below that it does not give any KR and does a nice 24 degrees of timing. But, once I pass 3900 rpms or so, it will spike up a couple degrees of KR and then go to 6-8 degrees of KR.

Today I replaced all my spark plugs, I did find one from bank 1 on inspection that had the porcelain cracked (dont know which cylinder it came out of). I put all new TR55s in and I also put the stock wires back on (in place of MSDs) and there was no change with the detonation.

Tomorrow I will be receiving a basically new set of high output LQ9 spark coils which will be replacing my 152k mile stock 00 ones. I'm systematically trying to rule out things...I've replaced the intake and TB gaskets and I put in new spark plugs. If the coils don't do the trick, I'm no sure what I should look to next. Is it possible something is up with my injectors? They looked fine when I had the intake off. I just think it's odd that my detonation always begins at the same RPM. Makes me think it's some sort of tuning issue.

I also wanted to add, on the spark plugs I pulled, I "read them" with some help of some online articles and they all looked great.

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What have you done to the tuning so far and does it detonate on a stock tune. What software are you useing? Post up the tune.
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A small variance between the 2 banks is ok and is normal. As long as the variance is only a couple % difference.
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When you looked at the plugs, did you see any signs of detonation there or is it just KR in your log file? Detonation on a plug will look like speckling of metallic dust on the porcelain.
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crank relearn?
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crank relearn?
Ohhhh, that is a good point, i believe he swapped in a new/different engine awhile ago, i wonder if he did that???
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IT should throw a code. but I have seen this type of thing before ...
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I have never done a crank relearn. I've probably had 5 different Pcm s in my truck
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Originally Posted by dc_justin
When you looked at the plugs, did you see any signs of detonation there or is it just KR in your log file? Detonation on a plug will look like speckling of metallic dust on the porcelain.
Nope. The plugs looked great. No abnormalities
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
I have never done a crank relearn. I've probably had 5 different Pcm s in my truck
Well you have the tunning software now, i would do a crank relearn when you get home tonight and go log it afterwards and post up the results... It couldn't hurt and it is free....


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