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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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No sense in spending money on headers when I'm going turbo in the near future. Can't wait to get the wideband in and finally get this thing tuned
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
Hopefully this clears up some things


Joe, I think there may be an understanding.

If you go to sae generic.txt and scroll down to the LC-1 you see this

# Innovate LC-1 WBO2
# ========================
*CLC-00-932
V 0.0 5.0 .1 "{EXT.AD1}"
AFR 7.35 22.39 .2 "({EXT.AD1}*3)+7.35"
. . .

*CLC-00-934
V 0.0 5.0 .1 "{EXT.AD2}"
AFR 10.0 20.0 .2 "({EXT.AD2}*3)+7.35"
. . .

If you look at EXT.AD1 where it lists 0V and 5V I changed the line under that to 7.35 AFR and 22.39 AFR. I changed it from 10 and 20. If you look at AD2 you will see the stock settings that don't correlate to the algorithm AFR = AD1*3 + 7.35

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Hi Michael,

Those fields do not define the pid, they simply define the lower/upper limits that will appear on the chart or gauge (on the Dash A, B, C tabs) that this pid is assigned to...

The .2 defines how many digits after the decimal point will be displayed...

The pid is defined by the equation you see there.

i.e. the upper/lower display limits do not influence the pid... the pid is defined purely by the equation.

Let me know if that makes sense or not...

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These are the settings in mine: they are not modified.

# Innovate LC-1 WBO2
# ========================
*CLC-00-932
V 0.0 5.0 .1 "{EXT.AD1}"
AFR 10.0 20.0 .2 "({EXT.AD1}*3)+7.35"
. . .

*CLC-00-934
V 0.0 5.0 .1 "{EXT.AD2}"
AFR 10.0 20.0 .2 "({EXT.AD2}*3)+7.35"
. . .

Yet in Dashboard A,B and C and in Maps I do get values below 10.0 AFR. This expression does not seem to limit my lower boundary in logs that I have done.

The LC1 has worked very well for me. I do have a gauge wired in to mine as well.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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how are you all getting the IAT sensor working when failing the MAF to run SD?
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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I bought a push in sensor from a 96 Camaro and a GM 2 wire pigtail. I drilled a hole in my STS intake tubing just before the 90 into the TB. I cut the wires going to the MAF and joined the pigtail to them and plugged it into the sensor. I found a grommet somewhere that fit and pushed the IAT sensor into it. It has never budged even at 16 psi. Works like a charm and I can reconnect the MAF if I want to because I left a few inches of wire on it's connector. The MAF is no longer in the truck.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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I just bought the MSD 2320 IAT sensor. It was $26 shipped I think.

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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
how are you all getting the IAT sensor working when failing the MAF to run SD?
If you are following the Autove tutorial, these are the suggestions i make to that tutorial:

1. Skip step 6 (B3618), meaining leave PE enabled.
2. Step 7, set those three rows to 14.71 across the board.
3. Skip step 18, leave the MAF plugged in..

or you can follow the write up i did here

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...d.php?t=445995
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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FYI, even thought the IAT is located in the MAF, it is wired separately, and failing the MAF does not affect the IAT unless you actually unplug it too.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackGMC
If you are following the Autove tutorial, these are the suggestions i make to that tutorial:

1. Skip step 6 (B3618), meaining leave PE enabled.
2. Step 7, set those three rows to 14.71 across the board.
3. Skip step 18, leave the MAF plugged in..

or you can follow the write up i did here

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...d.php?t=445995
Could you explain why you made those modifications? I would like to run an SD tune and forget about using the MAF. Mine is descreened and according to Justin it just isn't accurate at all like that. I've also read that running SD yields better throttle response as the MAP sensor is more sensitive to very quick changes than the MAF. But the downside is that it doesn't compensate for weather, altitude changes ,etc.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
FYI, even thought the IAT is located in the MAF, it is wired separately, and failing the MAF does not affect the IAT unless you actually unplug it too.
Well that's interesting. In that case I really didn't need to buy the IAT sensor. I wonder why it states that the sensor needs to be relocated and wired up in the EFI live Autove tutorial. Maybe as it was written for a F-body setup and I believe they had a different MAF. But I guess I'll need it with a turbo setup anyways.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
Could you explain why you made those modifications? I would like to run an SD tune and forget about using the MAF. Mine is descreened and according to Justin it just isn't accurate at all like that. I've also read that running SD yields better throttle response as the MAP sensor is more sensitive to very quick changes than the MAF. But the downside is that it doesn't compensate for weather, altitude changes ,etc.
I like leaving PE enabled and just setting my commanded fuel table to one value, basically a personal preference... It makes no difference if you follow my suggestions or the tutorial because your tunning based on the relationship between commanded vs actual... Both methods command a richer mixture in the high load areas, so your safe there...

like i said, that is just the way i do it, everyone has their own style..
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