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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SlowHoe
I just want to know why a guy with a license for 2002 trucks 4.8,5.3, and 6.0 can't tune my Tahoe. What's the difference?
Good point I dont have or know anyone with a tahoe but I always thought they should be grouped together myself.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SlowHoe
I just want to know why a guy with a license for 2002 trucks 4.8,5.3, and 6.0 can't tune my Tahoe. What's the difference? Just a scam to make more sales? The PCM is the same correct? Suburbans?

Am I misinformed when I hear EFI will let me tune ANY 2002 Chevy/GMC 4.8,5.3,6.0 regardless of what body style is slapped on the frame?
I will never tune more than 25 cars/trucks.
I just want to do my current toy and be ready to do the next one which will be a 2005 something...and if a buddy wants help with his truck he just spends $99 to get the license, correct? How does HPT work in this situation?
When you purchase EFI, it comes with 2 liscenses, but you can tune F-body's, Vette's, Trucks (including Tahoes), and Duramax Diesel with the same program. You can put 25 liscenses on a cable and then after that just get a new cable, they are cheap. Free uprgrades too.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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1SlowHoe, to answer your questions. Both companies have license schemes that are designed to make the company money, not lose money. It's not a scam at all.

If we did not put limits on our licenses, why would people continue to purchase through us? They wouldn't. They wouldn't have to and we both would go out of business.

EFI Lives license is a per vehicle license. What that means is once you use that license up on your truck, that license is locked to your individual truck. Only your truck.

Our license is a per model/year license. What that means is if you purchase a license for your 02 tahoe, you can tune an unlimited number of 02 tahoe's, not just your own.

Our license is a very open scheme. While in some models it may not be ideal, in other popular models it is.. For example, the f-body and the silverado/sierra market.. Many people have these cars, and know others with the same types of vehicles. If you have one of our licenses for a xx year of yy model, if your friend has the same xx year of yy model vehicle you can tune their vehicle as well without having to add more licenses to your support.

We also group several models together to make our license scheme more robust..

For example, we group the camaro's and firebirds into a single f-body license.
We group silverados and sierra's into a single license group.
We group suburbans and yukons.
We group Express and Savanna's.

We will be expanding the types of licenses we have available in the near future as well. You will definately have more options to chose from to pick the perfect product for you and your tuning needs.


Rhino79, HP Tuners has free upgrades as well.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by foff667
The free updates thing as well...hptuners has offered free updates if you bought your unit after mid October of 04' so they've offered this for over a year now.
So those of us who supported HPT early on in their growth by purchasing before October '04 don't get free updates, is that what you're saying?
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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[QUOTE=Magnus]we will be expanding the types of licenses we have available in the near future as well. You will definately have more options to chose from to pick the perfect product for you and your tuning needs./QUOTE]

So does this mean you will be changing your pricing to add vehicles? When we order we get two vehicle types. If you add 2 more vehices its $199 each but after that its $399 each. Soon you will offer support for Ford, Chrysler and duramax. This can get real expensive if you dont have the cash up front to buy one of the tuner packages. I personaly would like to beable to buy them buy the block. Like all Silverado/Sierra 99-05 and or all F-body 99-05
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Naked AV
So those of us who supported HPT early on in their growth by purchasing before October '04 don't get free updates, is that what you're saying?
At the time of your purchase there were two options hptuners & ls1edit...hptuners decided to go with a similar strategy with their updates....efilives tuning software came out about a year later offering free updates so hptuners matched it. The decided on a cutoff date & stuck with it. Once you pay the annual fee ONCE thats it & your set for life
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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[QUOTE=1slowsilverado]
Originally Posted by Magnus
we will be expanding the types of licenses we have available in the near future as well. You will definately have more options to chose from to pick the perfect product for you and your tuning needs./QUOTE]

So does this mean you will be changing your pricing to add vehicles? When we order we get two vehicle types. If you add 2 more vehices its $199 each but after that its $399 each. Soon you will offer support for Ford, Chrysler and duramax. This can get real expensive if you dont have the cash up front to buy one of the tuner packages. I personaly would like to beable to buy them buy the block. Like all Silverado/Sierra 99-05 and or all F-body 99-05
I dunno...their pricing structure changed after 1.6 was released if i remember correctly, slightly. With more competition between efilive, tunercats & ls1edit they might consider it. For my sake I hope so but nothing is guaranteed at this point. They did however lower their 2bar licensing by $100 recently so maybe thats a hint
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