Not sure I understand how a "no tip policy" protects the "company"? That never made any sense to me.

 

Some people just don't know the value of work sometimes. They do the minium of their job and expect to get paid the big bucks for the little work they do. Welcome to America. lol.

 

Maybe other employees complaining, tax issues, etc. I'm no law expert, but a "no tip" policy could probably be explained as being similar to the "fine print" type of stuff. Say if the company were to get in trouble because of employees making excessive amounts of tip without their knowledge, and taxes not being paid for it, the company could always fall back on this policy. They could say the company policy is to not accept tips, the employee was violating policy and will be terminated, therefor putting the blame on the employee and not the company.

 

I'm with Scott, especially now that I see on the bottom of most billsa set of guidelines of what acceptable tip is and what a good tip is.
The minimum now is 15%(according to some restaurants) and great service is 30%. How in their right mind am I supposed to just GIVE $30 to someone for bringing me food when I go have a nice dinner for two.
Tip should be optional and for the amount decided upon by the payee.

 

The most effective incentive is the negative type. As a child, if your parents threatened to take something dear away from you, you wouldn't discount it nearly as much as if your parents took away something they were going to give you as a reward, like dessert. Negative incentive is the threat that something may be taken from you, and positive incentive is the reward on top of what you already have.

I think restaurants know this, and the employees are forced to work harder for adequate pay. In effect, you're forced to tip them to make up for the rest of their paycheck. If employees knew they would be paid a set amount regardless of their performance, the service would likely suffer. So restaurants and other professional services make it so the money the employees make is a direct reflection of the quality of their service. This way, the company wins in two ways...they get to pay the employees less and net more profit, and also have better reviews from their customers because their employees are working that much harder.

I agree with you completely, Scott....but sadly that's how businesses run

 

I have no problem leaving a good tip if the service is good. I can see though that more and more people that are in that line of work think its a must, will often be a horrible waiter/tres.. If they are horrible about it no tip, I do not feel the slightest bad about it..

 

Me too. Sorry I work my *** off outside and never recieve any extra compensation by any means. i dont feel obligated to leave ****. The crazy part IMO is how this is the standard now. I usually leave around a 2 dollar tip unless im impressed or unimpressed, then it varies. It usually cash with no taxes, so fair enough IMO

 

have some family who runs bars and restaurants from the old days...(70's to late 90's)...the % comes from an average of all restaurants and such professionals who are in an "average opinion" of what the market will bare. Typically 15% is the common ground.

Keep in mind (quoting Payscale website), those who work "off of tips", their pay is ~3 to 7 bucks an hour. The tips they take genuinely equate to ~5 to 15 bucks an hour. Of course depends on just how good they are at earning your generosity. On the high end of that average that's 22 bucks an hour or $45,760. With all the credit card tips these days I am sure most of that is taxed.

More on topic, American society tipping more these days is a product of our dumb asses (our=society) spending too much for something that should cost a whole lot less. (600K for a 250K house) IMHO of course. It's almost an irreversible effect really, hell look at you complaining about (rightfully so), once people get used to getting tipped for something they shouldn't it becomes hard to take away. Free hand outs. And the analogies and metaphors are abundant to make the comical argument of it all...again, in my opinion of course.

I agree, you almost can't get good service any where anymore without whipping out extra cash.

"T.I.P" "To Insure Promptness" of "servers".

 

I worked in restaurants growing up when I wasnt working construction so this subject is a bit close the heart. When I was waiting tables(10-7 years ago) the going rate for a waiter was 2.15/hr. My paychecks for two weeks of woking 40-50 hours was less than a hundred bucks. Tips is what I survived on, and I was pretty damn good so most of the time I could walk out with a hundred in my pocket for a shift. Which wasnt bad considering I lived at home at the time.

Scott I really do agree with you but smokeshow nailed it. The tipping system is in place to encourage good service at the customers expense. The incentive should come from the employeer not the consumer.

Even with me being a waiter in the past I DO NOT tip 20%. Case in point, for Christmas Eve dinner with my family at a nice steakhouse our bill was a hair under 400 bucks, I tipped 30 bucks. To some that is shitty but we were there for 2 hours, I figure 15 bucks an hour to wait on me and my family is not bad. Im not going to pay a waiter more than I make to fill my glass and take my dirty plates.

Now when its just the wife and I, and our bill is 40ish Ill usually leave 10 or so if theyre good and really take care of me. I dont tip on any certain percentage scale, I tip specifically on the circumstances and the service rendered. If I go out at the gratuity is automatically added to my ticket and I feel the waiter has performed sub-par, I will not hesitate to get a manager to take it off. Havign been a waiter I know how difficult the job can be and I take that into account. If theyre busy running around I dont get pissy but if theyre slow and BS'ing with people and theyre not on point with serving my table they will get a penny tip without hesitation.

I whole heartedly agree with your point, unfortunately its just the way it is.

 

Agreed. I work at a nursery and tree farm where I started this spring as a carry out. (I carried trees and plants to peoples cars/trucks) Not hard, simple mindless work. I got tipped every once in a while, and at first I would tell them to keep it, that I was just doing my job. Of course I started taking them later on, but tips are few and far between.

I once was at a Sonic here in OKC a while back and ordered a 44 ounce drink. Car-hop brought me my drink, I handed her a five and said "just give me back the bills" BITCH GAVE ME A DIRTY LOOK Apparently a 98 cent tip its good enough for bringing me a 2 dollar drink. I was PISSED.