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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 08:28 AM
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I just bought a 99 4runner with a blown head gasket. I have a couple questions.

Are the head bolts reusable? What do they torque to? And Where is the best place to but parts?

Thanks for any help.
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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Hey brother, I'm an ex-Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician...do you have the 6cyl or the 4cyl? (can't remember if they offered the 4 cyl that year). I'm going to assume that you have the 3.4 6cyl and the gasket(s) are leaking externally either in the right rear or left front...this is where they used to leak and we had a recall in reference to this. I would recommend using factory Toyota gaskets, just because we had such problems with them. Toyota allowed us to reuse the bolts, but we had to put a paint mark on the bolts at 12:00 IIRC, (after torquing them to a spec that I can't remember), then turn them 90* in sequence, then another 90*, and make sure that the paint mark was at 6:00 after they were all torqued, and if not, replace the bolt. Honestly, I never had to replace any bolts, even though some would be tight and hard to turn while others went so easily that I could turn them with one hand.

If you google "Toyota 3.4 Head Gasket SSC" (SSC= Special Service Campaign), you'll probably find all of the info that you need. If not, hit me up in a pm and I'll make some calls and see if I can find some info for you. I currently work for Lexus, but am home from work with a hernia so I don't really have access to our data base right now.

FWIW, we had recalls (or SSC's as Toyota/Lexus prefers to call them) on both our 3.0 V6 head gaskets (which leaked internally), and our 3.4 V6's, which leaked externally where I described before.

It's very important that you get both the head and block surfaces completely clean and flat, and check them with a straight edge and feeler gauge (unless you just want to wing it, which is what I did when I was doing two of these a day on flat rate). 3M makes a plastic yellow bristle type of surface cleaner that adapts to your die grinder, but if you use this, as gentle as it is, be sure to keep moving with it as it will cut into the soft aluminum head. Toyota actually told us not to use pneumatic tools to clean the surfaces and wanted us to use brakleen and sand paper only...but it's hard to make time on the job doing it that way

If you check with the dealer, there may be a possibility that the SSC was not yet performed on your 4Runner...it may be too late, but it worth a shot just to check

Hope this helps
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by budhayes3
Hey brother, I'm an ex-Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician...do you have the 6cyl or the 4cyl? (can't remember if they offered the 4 cyl that year). I'm going to assume that you have the 3.4 6cyl and the gasket(s) are leaking externally either in the right rear or left front...this is where they used to leak and we had a recall in reference to this. I would recommend using factory Toyota gaskets, just because we had such problems with them before they were redesigned. Toyota allowed us to reuse the bolts, but we had to put a paint mark on the bolts at 12:00 IIRC, (after torquing them to a spec that I can't remember), then turn them 90* in sequence, then another 90*, and make sure that the paint mark was at 6:00 after they were all torqued, and if not, replace the bolt. Honestly, I never had to replace any bolts, even though some would be tight and hard to turn while others went so easily that I could turn them with one hand.

If you google "Toyota 3.4 Head Gasket SSC" (SSC= Special Service Campaign), you'll probably find all of the info that you need. If not, hit me up in a pm and I'll make some calls and see if I can find some info for you. I currently work for Lexus, but am home from work with a hernia so I don't really have access to our data base right now.

FWIW, we had recalls (or SSC's as Toyota/Lexus prefers to call them) on both our 3.0 V6 head gaskets (which leaked internally), and our 3.4 V6's, which leaked externally where I described before.

It's very important that you get both the head and block surfaces completely clean and flat, and check them with a straight edge and feeler gauge (unless you just want to wing it, which is what I did when I was doing two of these a day on flat rate). 3M makes a plastic yellow bristle type of surface cleaner that adapts to your die grinder, but if you use this, as gentle as it is, be sure to keep moving with it as it will cut into the soft aluminum head. Toyota actually told us not to use pneumatic tools to clean the surfaces and wanted us to use brakleen and sand paper only...but it's hard to make time on the job doing it that way

If you check with the dealer, there may be a possibility that the SSC was not yet performed on your 4Runner...it may be too late, but it worth a shot just to check

Hope this helps
Thank you very much for all the info. Sorry to hear about the injury, I remember you had a bad one awhile back to I believe.

I know the little yellow things your talking about. I will use that and Toyota gaskets.

One more question, What is that grey looking wierd sealant they use? Do you recommend I get it or just use normal silicone? Thanks again.
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MARK3406E
Thank you very much for all the info. Sorry to hear about the injury, I remember you had a bad one awhile back to I believe.

I know the little yellow things your talking about. I will use that and Toyota gaskets.

One more question, What is that grey looking wierd sealant they use? Do you recommend I get it or just use normal silicone? Thanks again.
Thanks man, yea, I tore my left bicep tendon back in January, and didn't get back to work until the end of April, or beginning of May (forgot already lol), so I'm a little bummed to be hurt again in such a short period of time

That grey stuff is just the factory sealant, and we cleaned it and replaced it with the black Toyota FIPG (Form In Place Gasket), which I've found to work better than any RTV that I've ever used. This stuff is great and very forgiving, and what I continue to use in places where you normally would use RTV. You could use regular black RTV if you like, but honestly I trust the Toyota stuff a whole lot more. You will only use a portion of the tube on the head job, and can use the rest of it on other jobs that would normally require RTV. If you squeeze a dab of the Toyota stuff on one finger, and a dab of some black Permatex on another, you can actually feel the difference...the Toyota stuff feels to conform to shapes and gaps better, and doesn't dry as "shiny" as the RTV.

If you do decide to use the Toyota stuff, be sure to ask for the black oil pan FIPG, as the dealer usually carries two different ones...black for engine oil and orange for sealing transmissions.

Glad to help man
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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If it helps, I got the part number off of the box of black FIPG that I have in the garage, it's 00295-00103, and the box reads "For Oil Pan/Camshaft Housing"
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Old Jul 30, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Free online chilton manuals for ANY vehicle - Page 4 - Blazer Forum - Chevy Blazer Forums
this *might* give you a torque spec
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