New to nitrous, please help
06-20-2012, 02:09 PM
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ok, that sounds good, gives me a direction to go in right now. I run the #5 pill in the msd box so i need to get ahold of them and see what changes are made by changing pills. With this set up we are spinning up to 8300 rpm depending on the gear we pull in. Is that going to have an effect on the way it works.
06-20-2012, 02:21 PM
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Probably gonna run the tr6 plug. That is what i have been reading works good. What would you recomend? Also I am trying to figure out my timming. I am running the msd coil control box and they supply me with timming pills. I need to contact them for thier input. This engine has an edlebrock victor jr manifold and holley carb, so all my tunning is done through the msd box.
06-20-2012, 02:25 PM
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MSD makes a timing retard box with a dial on it.. Might wanna look into that?
Dial back 1* per 25 shot under 100 shot, and 2* per 25 shot above 100 shot. i think is the rule of thumb.
So if your gonna run a 100 shot, pull 4* timing and start from there. if your gonna run a 150 shot, you pull 8* timing, 200 shot you pull 12* timing.That is, if your current timing isnt knocking/pinging.
and up to a 125-150 shot TR6 will work.. It is suggested to run br7ef (non projected) plugs for 150+
Dial back 1* per 25 shot under 100 shot, and 2* per 25 shot above 100 shot. i think is the rule of thumb.
So if your gonna run a 100 shot, pull 4* timing and start from there. if your gonna run a 150 shot, you pull 8* timing, 200 shot you pull 12* timing.That is, if your current timing isnt knocking/pinging.
and up to a 125-150 shot TR6 will work.. It is suggested to run br7ef (non projected) plugs for 150+
reading the plugs is the final solution in the end.i would recomend a non projected plug no matter what size the shot runs although i ran TR6 for years without any problems.
06-20-2012, 02:29 PM
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To an extent it is.. id short shift it around 6500 on spray and work it back up.
I cant find any info on the timing numbers for each pill.
can you program that ign box with your own curve?
I cant find any info on the timing numbers for each pill.
can you program that ign box with your own curve?
06-20-2012, 02:43 PM
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if he has the MSD 6010 he has a built in timing retard. if he has the edelbrock control unit i have no clue what he has. you're alot more conservative on your nitrous timing than me reading the plugs is the final solution in the end.
i would recomend a non projected plug no matter what size the shot runs although i ran TR6 for years without any problems.
reading the plugs is the final solution in the end.i would recomend a non projected plug no matter what size the shot runs although i ran TR6 for years without any problems.
Seems to work, i used it for a 250 shot on a 4.8, and its still running
runs like crap on motor, but on nitrous good gosh.
06-20-2012, 02:44 PM
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with the MSD you can create your own timing curve based on RPM and/or MAP readings with a laptop. pretty damn cool. i cant wait to start tuning with mine.
06-20-2012, 02:46 PM
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lets just say that around here with what we do that is considered built. Call it what your want lol.
Not real sure on the msd box, it has a edlebrock sticker on it. I believe it might be similar to the msd 6ls box but not sure i am waiting to hear back from msd about it.
I don't shift going down the track, I pull 300ft low range 2nd gear with a standard 4 speed tranny.
Thanks for all you help, like i said knida new to this end of it and trying to learn. hoping to have a 6.0 on the stand to do a "real build" if you wanna call it that. We are the first guys around here playing with the ls engines in this stuff, everyone we pull against runs the old 383,400, 434 sb stuff. So as you can see the info we are working with is from this site and ls1tech also.
Again thanks for all your input
Not real sure on the msd box, it has a edlebrock sticker on it. I believe it might be similar to the msd 6ls box but not sure i am waiting to hear back from msd about it.
I don't shift going down the track, I pull 300ft low range 2nd gear with a standard 4 speed tranny.
Thanks for all you help, like i said knida new to this end of it and trying to learn. hoping to have a 6.0 on the stand to do a "real build" if you wanna call it that. We are the first guys around here playing with the ls engines in this stuff, everyone we pull against runs the old 383,400, 434 sb stuff. So as you can see the info we are working with is from this site and ls1tech also.
Again thanks for all your input
06-26-2012, 08:12 AM
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Well the coil control box I have is only good if you dont want to tune with it. So I will be ordering an MSD 6010 to be able to do more with. Are the BR7EF plugs good for under 150 also? If so I will just get those and put them in. Going to be changing carbs to a quick fuel 850, and see where we end up. We are pulling with a 4 speed standard so I cannot shift during the pull thats why i was asking about how to actuate the solenoid, if I do a wot swtich I will already be spinning close to 8000rpm, Is there something out there that can actuat it at say 6500? Or am I better to use a button in this application. Again thank you guys for all your input.