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Old 11-04-2021, 06:12 PM
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This is happening 50k miles after my cam swap. With 170k on the truck.

I think it’s in the top end and my dual valve spring are saving my a$$ right now. It’s slower and more erratic than if it was rod knock.


going to pull the valve cover and drain the oil tomorrow and will see.

Then HP tuner scanner shows no misses.



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I have no idea, I have never heard that before. In for results.
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So that sounds more like rotating assembly knock noise, but I had a TSP 228/236 .635/.635 114-LSA for about 10k miles on my 2017 Camaro 6.2 LT1. The intake valve seats ended up failing enough to where #7 lost compression and started misfiring. I had to get new seats put in the heads.

TSP claims all GEN V LT1 valve seats (I believe the L86 uses the same valve seats) are supposedly "bad" from the factory and they will fail even stock and that you need to buy TSP's aftermarket castings. Obviously they have a really bad conflict of interest in stating that. I think their cams are just way to aggressive and they beat the valve seats to death.

Are you monitoring the individual misfire PIDs? or just checking for misfire codes? I think you should start with a scan tool and do a cylinder balance test, or at least start cutting off cylinders and observing the vibration and see if you can get it down to a certain cylinder. Then do a compression and leak down on that cylinder.
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I was scanning for individual missfires. #3 and #4 would show the usual 1 miss then go away in the short time I let it run.
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What is a cylinder balance test?
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Sounds like it's in the bottom end to me.
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Valve spring look good. And no play in the rockers.

Compression test show between 180 and 200. Except #6 should much higher. It showed around 230 psi.

going drain the oil and see what it looks like. Other than that I’m not sure if I should do a leak down test because all the pistons have compression.





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I'm hearing two sounds a fast constant tapping then the random louder knock. The fast tapping sounds low and the random sounds up top. Pull one plug wire then start engine... stop...then repeat... until you've done all eight one at a time. A rod will usually quieten down when the cylinder is not firing.
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I would say the oil is slightly copper if at all. But I did find a couple metal flakes in the oil pan I used to catch it. So I’m guessing I’ll go ahead and pull the engine.

This will be the first motor I’ve ever pulled. So I’ll take any tips you have. I talked the the machine shop that checked my heads and ported them. I just need to completely disassemble it and that it to them to check out.






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I would say the oil is slightly copper if at all. But I did find a couple metal flakes in the oil pan I used to catch it. So I’m guessing I’ll go ahead and pull the engine.

This will be the first motor I’ve ever pulled. So I’ll take any tips you have.
Not sure about the newer trucks but the GMT-800 trucks have an extra hole in the hood hinge. You remove the bolt on each hinge and lift the hood to the "service position" then install the bolt(s) in the other hole. This keeps you from having to remove the hood making it a one man operation (easier with two people) and eliminates the chances of scratching the hood or fenders.

Hood almost vertical in the "service position" You can see the other hole in the hood hinge area.

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