Are you really this stupid?

The Z06 is faster, has more torque and horsepower, AND gets better gas mileage.

Who cares about hp/ci or hp/liter, those are ricer arguments.

Oh I get it

 

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The Z06 is faster, has more torque and horsepower, AND gets better gas mileage.
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AND more expensive too!

 

Yeah, so's the Viper compared to either. Whats the point?

 

I was just pointing out that while the z06 is more powerful, faster, and gets better mpg, it is also more expensive. Therefore, it SHOULD be more powerful, faster, and get better mpg, hence why they can charge more for it.
Thanks
Ryan

 

Im not knocking you, or trying to make this personal but thats a flawed argument. Price shouldnt dictate as to how powerful, fast or economical a ride is. Hell, check out most exotics. Fairly small displacement engines pushing good hp #s, yet they cost 150k+ and probably get as good of economy as a Vortec 6000 does.

The average American car enthusiest will flock to the 03+ Cobra because its got probablly the best performance:dollar ratio around. Its an amazing car for your dollar, but to say that it should be less powerful, slower and less economical is flawed. I agree, that the Z06 SHOULD have more power, speed and economy than anything else below it, but thats just not the case. You're not spending that much money for its speed, economy or its quickness. Youre spending that money on the lil emblem on your hood, fender and whereever else it may be. GMs put everything but the body and chassis behind a half dozen other cars, and they range in price from less expensive to more expensive than the Corvette.

Once again, NOT making this personal, or a pissing match or anything like that, i just think your arguement has some flaws to it

 

No personal attack taken, however whether you say that price shouldn't dictate how fast or quick your car is, that is incorrect, it is a huge factor. Do you think that OEM is just going to give you a fast as hell car for no additional cost? I am not saying that just because it is more expensive means that it should get more mpg than a damn Ford Focus, thats ridiculous. They are not in the same class, but the z06 and the Cobra are pretty close. If I bought a $55k z06 and it was slower, less powerful, and got less mpg than a $40k Cobra, I would be pissed. While it is true that people buy a z06 for the image, how many would be sold if its image was "slower than a Mustang"? You are paying for the total package, not just the emblem. I guess what I am saying is, you pay more for both(can't have image w/o speed).

By the way, what domestic below the z06's price has more than 420hp and runs 12's?
Ryan

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I understand what you're saying, and dont disagree with the fact that for 50k the Z06 should obliterate everything it comes up against below its price range, but in reality thats just not the case. With cars like the Cobra that're sitting on aged chassis that have paid for themselves numerous times over, companies like Ford can offer cars like the Cobra for less than the Z06.

And i agree again that you're paying for the total package, but if thats the case, doesnt that also mean that if i'm paying for a total package, that just because my 50k Z06 which is a sports car, may get beaten in a 1/4 mile, that it doesnt justify spending that extra money on a stock vehicle that can run within a few seconds of supercars and exotics more than double its price? To most Corvette owners, they take turns. They dont just drive in straight lines like most of the Mustang/Cobra owners do. Thats what i was meaning by the "average American car enthusiest". We typically dont give a **** about turns, or twists, but most sports car owners do.

I'll leave it @ that, being my thoughts are kinda running together (that and i have some exams to study for), but im not disagreeing with you that the manufacturers should offer 50k cars that run circles around 40k cars, im just saying that in today's age, thats not always the case.

 

I love lame comments like this. You run what in the 1/4mile???

I'm sorry but maybe in your area they are slow but the rest of the east and west coast is FILLED with 9sec plus Mustangs and there are more than I care to count that run on the street yet trap 119-125mph N/A on nothing bigger than a 331ci. motor.

Slow stock? Yeah all except he Cobra and Mach1. But Mustangs are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get

 

Damn, I missed this one too.... LMAO

Such closemindedness is unhealthy. A true car enthusiest wouldn't say such things. Having owned a very fast Mustang and GM I'll tell you right now quality is about the same on any American car in a given price range. They are all pretty crappy quality when compared to an Auid or BMW etc but I still love em. If the 03' Cobra had came out in 00' when I first swapped back to GM, I would have bought it instead of my Trans Am.

 

ill stick with our new GTO over a ford anyday.the fast mustangs were the 5.0's in the late 80's and early 90's not these overrated supercharged ones.can ford build anything with more HP than GM without the use of a supercharger.the lightnings are fast but add a little juice to a 2wd chevy and see how even it is with the lightnings without a 5 grand SC.some kid in town went a bought a new lightning and talked trash to all the chevy guys .when he got his *** handed to him all he could say was "you sprayed me".chevy guy said ill give you the bottle and u give me the belt off of the SC.the lightning guy left ..... but hell at least it isnt a dodge,lol