I'm not saying the truck is better. I think the interior is fugly. So with a tune you can make your 5.3 have 401ft lbs at 3600rpms huh? I'm a GM fan and will continue to be, but I can recognize all accomplishments regardless of brand

 

you must remember that 400lbft is in a HEAVY *** truck so it kind of shoots itself in the foot... their hyped up commercials are BS... no way in hell they're accurate. I dont classify that engine as any type of accomplishment and thats my opinion... a motor that has problems breaking camshafts is hardly a breakthrough...

 

Gotta love opinions... imagine if we all agreed lol

 

Of course the power of the Iforce is good stock form, it was built from day one to outpower all of the big 3's half ton truck motors, something called competition. When half ton Silverado's and Sierras get 6 speeds the Tundra won't be such a 'holy ****' in the seat of the pants. It isn't as it is. 380hp at the crank isn't amazeing, nor is the feel of a 14 second truck.

No suprise it pulls harder on top than a regular 454, what did pull hard on the top end back in the 80's when those were around? I haven't test drove one, don't plan on it, but I have rode in my bosses, it's nothing special, not the end to all motor on the truck market. I guess I'm missing the greatness of it!

 

If only we could get a hold of one of the "Big Wig's" e-mail addresses and fill his in box with requests for this type of vehicle....................what the hell was I thinking...f- it!

Back at the end of "02" I tried to special order a 2WD SCSB truck with a 6.0l and a 5 speed manual....they looked at me like I was a crack head or something. We ALL wish.

 

Well I have driven all the new truck Dodge Nissian Ford and Tundra. My uncle has a new tundra and we both pulled the same load the same distance and he has more low end then my truck. He can gain speed up hills a little better but my truck holds speeds better. The new 5.7 i force is no joke but there not a lot left in them. They are about all there is. I am a die hard chevy guy and the 5.7 iforce with the 6 speed is a better drive train then the 6.0 4speed. For a couple reason. The 6.0 is detuned cause the 4l70e can't handle more power in a big truck. And the other reason is the 70e sucks. It just sucks. I hate it. I have had 4 gm trucks 3 with 5.3s and the 4l60e and a 6.0 with a 70e its no better then the 60e. It sucks. I love my truck truck there is no comparison between the tundra and the silverado but the drive train is nice on the yota. The ford is the only comaprison on truck but there drive train sucks. The 6.2 is rumored to be going in in 2009 or 10 with the 6 speed in 08 or 09 with the 6.0 and 5.3. The 4.8 is going away and the 5.3 will be replaces with a 5.x(not be put out yet) and the 6.0 will be a 6.2 and they will all get the 6speed. GM has a lot left in the bag they just don't have the ability to build 600,000 6 speeds a year or 300,000 6.2 yet.

 

Here my vmax compared to my uncles tundra sorry for stealing the thread but can't let people be ignorant on the other trucks. And by the way the 5.3 not in the same conversation as the 5.6 titian 5.7 tundra or the 6.0 vmax. They are all better motors by far. I love the 5.3 great lil motor but don't try to compare it to more then it is.


https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...tundra+vs+vmax

 

Thankyou

 

Well I will say this, I went to a bbq cook off one weekend and they had a Tundra on a dyno and you got to do one pull for yourself. I saw many people doing pulls and the numbers that they were putting down it was pretty close to what they claim.......it maybe set-up or whatever but it looked true with what the dyno showed.

James

 

The Toyota 5.7 is a decent piece and it sounds pretty good too. I wouldn't call it ground breaking in power output, fuel economy, or technology but it is on par with the competition for certain. The real difference is the fact that it comes with the 6spd and you can't get a 6spd regardless of engine choice from GM right now and that just plain sucks.
What I find peculiar is that GM decided to make the 6spd available in the HD trucks before they offer it in any of the ½ tons sans the ultra low volume Denali. There must still be a restriction on supply.