What are the syptoms of TQM
#11
so thats why the 1-2 shift feels like that
only chirped second once when dry but feels like it should more often <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
only chirped second once when dry but feels like it should more often <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
#12
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by oxidizr:
<strong>Have you ever noticed how it seems the trucks fall on there face between gears?
Doesn't it feel like the tires should be barking on the 1-2 upshift?
TQM is what prevents this from happening. TQM is supposed to help extend longevity of the 4L60E trans in heavy use applications.
TQM can:
1. Retard timing between shifts
2. Delay shift solenoid engagement
3. Remove fuel from 4 of 8 cylinders
This is nothing a performance vehicle needs. As you begin to make more power the effects of TQM become more and more appearant and the effects more and more costly(performance wise.)
TQM uses a culmination of 5 sensors to determine how its going to react to "elevated tq levels." This is a 100% computer managed system and as far as I can see not removable...but can be minimized through custom programming.
The 99's have it but it is not that noicable, 2000 got a larger dose but the 01-02's are by far the most invasive. I've lost as mucha as5 tenths in the 1/4 due to TQM phenomenon.
Richard</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So, would it be possible to swap computers with a 99? That might be cheaper and a lot less involved as ls1 edit, superchips, or sending it off to get custom tuning. I'm sure I could find someone to swap with me, or pull one from a salvage yard. Would it be worth the trouble to switch, or better to just get programming? Thanks
<strong>Have you ever noticed how it seems the trucks fall on there face between gears?
Doesn't it feel like the tires should be barking on the 1-2 upshift?
TQM is what prevents this from happening. TQM is supposed to help extend longevity of the 4L60E trans in heavy use applications.
TQM can:
1. Retard timing between shifts
2. Delay shift solenoid engagement
3. Remove fuel from 4 of 8 cylinders
This is nothing a performance vehicle needs. As you begin to make more power the effects of TQM become more and more appearant and the effects more and more costly(performance wise.)
TQM uses a culmination of 5 sensors to determine how its going to react to "elevated tq levels." This is a 100% computer managed system and as far as I can see not removable...but can be minimized through custom programming.
The 99's have it but it is not that noicable, 2000 got a larger dose but the 01-02's are by far the most invasive. I've lost as mucha as5 tenths in the 1/4 due to TQM phenomenon.
Richard</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So, would it be possible to swap computers with a 99? That might be cheaper and a lot less involved as ls1 edit, superchips, or sending it off to get custom tuning. I'm sure I could find someone to swap with me, or pull one from a salvage yard. Would it be worth the trouble to switch, or better to just get programming? Thanks
#13
I do notice mine on the 1-2 shift, but never on the 2-3. The only time it is really bad is when I punch it just before my 1-2 shift, like around 20 to 30 mph. When I do that, it is like I am hitting a wall. I would love to get it remove somehow though.
#15
don't bother with the 99 computer, my truck falls on it's face so hard between shifts you lift out of the seat, IT SUCKS BAD!!!!!!
<small>[ April 10, 2002, 09:06 PM: Message edited by: parish8 ]</small>
<small>[ April 10, 2002, 09:06 PM: Message edited by: parish8 ]</small>
#16
there is a way to remove this, but im not sure how safe it is. it is part of ls1 edit and i tested it at the track. set to give -10* timing during shifts, i only zeroed out the entire table and even that felt nicer, felt like it used to when i was on juice and it was just kinda glide into the next gear. next time i go i may try setting the timing to like 5 or 10* during a shift to see what this does, i know it will put timing to that but not sure how much it will help
#17
I zeroed all the tq mgmt tables and still noticed the bog. I then changed the shift firmness mostly to zero and haven't noticed any bog since. I still need to ATAP it though to make sure.
#19
mine started doing bad when I went from 3.42 to 4.10s this was before i installed the blower
Its like ya turn the switch off the on. Gm and ther fuc- bs tqm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> said it saved them over one millone $$ in warrtey work on the trans. well hell
sell us a tuner that wouild remove it
you could get it thru the dealer But here the deal make the purchacer sighn a waver that states that they have purchaes one and GM is no longer libal for the trans <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
That would be the shizzzznet
Its like ya turn the switch off the on. Gm and ther fuc- bs tqm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> said it saved them over one millone $$ in warrtey work on the trans. well hell
sell us a tuner that wouild remove it
you could get it thru the dealer But here the deal make the purchacer sighn a waver that states that they have purchaes one and GM is no longer libal for the trans <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
That would be the shizzzznet
#20
mine started doing bad when I went from 3.42 to 4.10s this was before i installed the blower
Its like ya turn the switch off the on. Gm and ther fuc- bs tqm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> said it saved them over one millone $$ in warranty work on the trans. Well hell!
Sell us a tuner that would remove it.
You could get it thru the dealer. But here the deal make the purchacer sign a waver that states that they have purchaed one and GM is no longer libal for the trans <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
That would be the shizzzznet
<small>[ August 03, 2002, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: screwed2000 ]</small>
Its like ya turn the switch off the on. Gm and ther fuc- bs tqm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> said it saved them over one millone $$ in warranty work on the trans. Well hell!
Sell us a tuner that would remove it.
You could get it thru the dealer. But here the deal make the purchacer sign a waver that states that they have purchaed one and GM is no longer libal for the trans <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
That would be the shizzzznet
<small>[ August 03, 2002, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: screwed2000 ]</small>


