went back to the dyno again...
#21
Originally Posted by 02Reaper
Some vehicles just have more power than others. Allen told me when I asked him about doing some heads for me that the trucks really dont gain that much from heads. I really could care less what my truck dynos, because Its the track that I want the real numbers. The only reason for all of the dynoing is for research for you all and myself too of course. Look at all the big dyno numbers that the trucks with radix's put out, then look at the track times. Same goes for the lightnings, look at the numbers that they put out. Even with all that hp and tq, we have trucks with way less hp and tq running the same times and better. what are all of your takes on that?
Take a relativly stock reg cab Radix 5.3, on street tires vs our trucks.
We have seen some times posted, Now according to the almighty Cross state Track list our Times are better causing some to say B.S.!! how can a cammed 5.3 beat a SC 5.3???
The radix truck has alot more power but the stock truck is not set up to get it to the ground with the tranny not even sifting above 6000.
Now add evrything I have done to mine to a the radix truck and here comes mid 12's(Flyer) blowing mine away.
My times are a result of cool temps, good traction and low elevation.
Now throw in a very loose stall, 4.10's, 28" drag radials, caltracs, suspension, driveshaft, Tranny, cam and good exhaust.
I'm just glad to hit 13's without a radix
I will be really glad to hit 12's with one.
I'm looking forward to a dyno just to see whats going on. I dynoed it along time ago before all my mods and would like to see haow the pwerband has changed.
#22
Originally Posted by SportSide 5.3
Good point reaper.
I think I've asked you before, but why does Allan feel there isn't gains to be had by head porting?
I think I've asked you before, but why does Allan feel there isn't gains to be had by head porting?
#23
Originally Posted by creederado
Take a relativly stock reg cab Radix 5.3, on street tires vs our trucks.
We have seen some times posted, Now according to the almighty Cross state Track list our Times are better causing some to say B.S.!! how can a cammed 5.3 beat a SC 5.3???
The radix truck has alot more power but the stock truck is not set up to get it to the ground with the tranny not even sifting above 6000.
Now add evrything I have done to mine to a the radix truck and here comes mid 12's(Flyer) blowing mine away.
My times are a result of cool temps, good traction and low elevation.
Now throw in a very loose stall, 4.10's, 28" drag radials, caltracs, suspension, driveshaft, Tranny, cam and good exhaust.
I'm just glad to hit 13's without a radix
I will be really glad to hit 12's with one.
I'm looking forward to a dyno just to see whats going on. I dynoed it along time ago before all my mods and would like to see haow the pwerband has changed.
We have seen some times posted, Now according to the almighty Cross state Track list our Times are better causing some to say B.S.!! how can a cammed 5.3 beat a SC 5.3???
The radix truck has alot more power but the stock truck is not set up to get it to the ground with the tranny not even sifting above 6000.
Now add evrything I have done to mine to a the radix truck and here comes mid 12's(Flyer) blowing mine away.
My times are a result of cool temps, good traction and low elevation.
Now throw in a very loose stall, 4.10's, 28" drag radials, caltracs, suspension, driveshaft, Tranny, cam and good exhaust.
I'm just glad to hit 13's without a radix
I will be really glad to hit 12's with one.
I'm looking forward to a dyno just to see whats going on. I dynoed it along time ago before all my mods and would like to see haow the pwerband has changed.
#24
Originally Posted by SportSide 5.3
its possible.
i think it'll be interesting to see what BK puts down. Might show that the cam is holding the other two back, or possibly, they'll dyno all near. I just find it odd Smokeur5.0 put down 320 w/ a cam only, and QUICKWS6's buddy just put down 310 w/ a cam only.
i think it'll be interesting to see what BK puts down. Might show that the cam is holding the other two back, or possibly, they'll dyno all near. I just find it odd Smokeur5.0 put down 320 w/ a cam only, and QUICKWS6's buddy just put down 310 w/ a cam only.
I will also agree with what Seeing Red Again said... It is hard to compare dyno numbers unless the vehicles are done on the same dyno on the same day. As for the great fluxuation of numbers mentioned earlier, there are lots of dyno tricks as well as dynos not set up correctly.
#25
Originally Posted by SportSide 5.3
Good point reaper.
I think I've asked you before, but why does Allan feel there isn't gains to be had by head porting?
I think I've asked you before, but why does Allan feel there isn't gains to be had by head porting?
#27
Man, this would be so much easier to explain in person... but I am going to try. Basicly it is when the valve is too close to the combustion chamber wall to allow air to flow from the port, over the valve and into the cc in that particular area, hence inhibbiting the entire flow area of the valve port.
#29
My cam is not much different from theirs. 2* more intake duration, 2* less exhaust duration, a little more lift and a little tighter lsa. Using the online hp calculators and the mph from my last outing at the track I am guessing mine will put down ~330 on the rollers.
But who knows. I think it'll be interesting one way or the other.
#30
I dont know if this is Allan's reasoning but from doing my own, this is what I think. The valves are shrowded real bad on the 5.3 heads. I saw were the exhaust valves were acutally rubbing onthe heads in stock form. With our small bore it is hard to open up the combustion chambers to unshrowd the valves, even with our small 1.89/1.55 valves. So dont think it has anything to do with port flow (which is what you mostly gain on ported heads), it is getting the into the cylinder, passed the small bore, where the 4.8/5.3 falls short.
Yeah, the exhaust valve nearly touches the combustion chamber wall and the intake valve isn't far off.
I wish I knew the formula to figure out the cfm requirment given most of our operation rpm range. It would help.
Stock heads see a max of 226 in. & 174 ex. @ .600 lift
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