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Old 10-25-2011, 06:41 PM
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Spoke to more than a few throttle body porting professionals and they all think I might not gain any horsepower by swapping my stock 87mm throttle to a ported 90mm on a 750HP supercharged 427 truck?

Others think I will gain nothing by swapping out my single 3" y-pipe to a true dual 3" + xpipe.

Both of which dont make any sense to me. The norm seems to be about 400hp before a single 3" becomes a restriction, and Corvettes for one use dual 3" pipes on Z06's and ZR1's.

Help before I loose my mind, and money
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To heck with the nasayer's and just do it
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Only way to really know is somehow get a pressure reading behind the TB and see if it is below atmospheric when you go WOT. The 87mm is already pretty damn big.
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Definitely do it anyways if you're wanting to.

Aren't the stock truck ones 78mm or something like that? Or are the nnbs bigger? And I imagine even the 3mm would make a difference, as porting seems to grab a few hp on a stock motor, much less a S/C one.

Same for exhaust, I think you're right, it would be wrong to say youl'll make NO gain, but I don't think itll be anything huge, but every bit helps
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If we all listened to the people that said this or that mod would not make a difference, then we would all have 15 second trucks and think we are fast. Do some more research and find out what you are willing to risk for nominal gains.
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im not making near the hp you are. im about 360hp and going from the stock 87mm to a 90mm made my truck run better. im not talking about 10+ hp or anything but with my cam the stock 87mm would sometimes take 2 times to try to crank my truck and after switching to the 90mm it starts right up. so it needed the extra air.
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I'd put a 102 on that thing and never look back. What intake manifold do you have on it?

definitely do a dual 3" system and leave out the X pipe. the scavenging BS is just that... If anything, do an H pipe or nothing at all. 1 7/8" long tubes and free flowing dual 3" exhaust are a must on something like what youve got.
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Sounds right, i still think the x pipe would be a good thing to have not too sure though.

What 102 throttle do you have? Also hows drivability with that throttle?

Truck has 1 3/4 highflow cats and a single 3" ypipe talk about exhaust restriction on this motor...
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My truck is manual throttle, not drive by wire like yours. I'll be running a 95mm on a stock displacement setup.

I'd seriously look into a 102 for yours though.
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How is an x pipe bs? I remember a couple years ago on one of the mustang forums I frequented a guy had a set of cutouts on his x pipe. He dyno'd the car with the cutouts open, open headers and then dyno'd the car with them closed and actually lost power with them open because of the lack of scavenging.


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