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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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So with the mods listed below, who do you think can better serve me with a good proper tune, Westers or Nelson. My Fast Chip tune is suckin bad especially in the transmission shift point department (engine seems to run good), I don't like taking my truck down for 4 days at a time to send my PCM to Oaklahoma for a $150 plus shipping re-tune, I got hooked to them when I bought my blower, they were recomended, and I didn't know of anyone else. I can't find the time to get to a custom dyno tuner I would trust, and don't have the time or desire to tinker with it myself. I am sick of the tranny shifting too soon at part throttle, locking the TC at WOT and not downshifting even at WOT when there is tons of RPM left in the next lower gear, it's only been this way since the retune for the gears, they botched it pretty good. I am ready to try someone else, who's better or should I just flip a coin? Thanks
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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If you want to win, I hear Nelson's.

But for a good convervative tune, Westers. (I sometimes wonder if I should have gone nelson...)
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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With what you're complaining about. I would say neither, get it yourself and put those shift points exactly where you want them.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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I am a huge fan of the westers. If you do a search you will see my post regarding my Westers tune. I asked them for a mild lower octane tune as I wasnt looking for max power (just yet)...and I picked up 17-22rwhp across the board, tons of torque, and over 30hp on the big end.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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With what you're complaining about. I would say neither, get it yourself and put those shift points exactly where you want them.
Is there a simple plug in programmer that can do this? Predator? I would need to be able control WOT shift points, engine rev limit, TC function and transmission shift points at various throttle openings to get where I want to be, that sounds like a full blown tuning program to me, and I just don't want to go that route (no time and I'm not real patient either , I like plug and play) tuning on the street around here would be kinda tough to do as well. I have a superchips programmer from before the truck was supercharged, but I am afraid to plug it into the custom PCM. I don't even remember if it has that much control. I don't know how much more performance might be in the motor either. I was pretty happy with my original tune, and the truck is noticably faster since the last tune for the 43lb'rs and gears, but the tranny shifts are just all wrong especially the TC locking up way to early, and the refusal to downshift.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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Nothing handheld would do that ... I would suggest HPTuners. It isn't very difficult. I know Allen doesn't mess much with the shift tables from talking to some of his other customers, and I'd guess about the same with Westers.

Part throttle shifts are kinda personal taste anyways. Again, that's why I think you should get HPTuners and do it yourelf. It's really simple once you get the hang of it.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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I am a huge fan of the westers. If you do a search you will see my post regarding my Westers tune. I asked them for a mild lower octane tune as I wasnt looking for max power (just yet)...and I picked up 17-22rwhp across the board, tons of torque, and over 30hp on the big end.
I'm torn between them, I have heard great things about both but mostly from guys running N/A tunes with no drivetrain mods. I think the 4.88's is what threw off FastChips. I guess I could call both and see what they say. How do these things work? Do they just dyno tune one vehicle and then "can" the tune and tweak it as needed for individual desires. If so I guess I could call and see if either has successfully tuned a vehicle with my exact mods before. My engine is internally all stock, WOT shift points set to stock, rev limit set to stock (I wanted to be safe). So I know there has got to be more available
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyer
Nothing handheld would do that ... I would suggest HPTuners. It isn't very difficult. I know Allen doesn't mess much with the shift tables from talking to some of his other customers, and I'd guess about the same with Westers.

Part throttle shifts are kinda personal taste anyways. Again, that's why I think you should get HPTuners and do it yourelf. It's really simple once you get the hang of it.
I paid for a Wester's tune specifically for my blower install. After waiting almost 6 weeks for the update, he sent me something I couldnt even drive with. It detonated badly even at part throttle. I wonder to this day how much damage was done to my pistons from this idiot. It took me 2 weeks to convince him I needed an update at which point he wanted me to prove to him that I actually had ASM 43lb injectors. My word wasnt good enough, he wanted part numbers which I didnt have. Like I would lie??!!! That idiot scammed me out of $500. Now I will do it with HPTuners or have Jeremy at RevExtreme help me.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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the first thing is your abs light on ?i have been told that the gm bcm and abs could not take a 4.88 gear there was not enough adjustment .i have been told this by a few guys that have the 4.88 that is why i went with 4.56.but i also have the superlift computer that corrects the gear ratio and tire size for the computer.my shift points were dead on with this add on box.if your satisfied with the power of your tune i would go with the superlift add on.if not i have a westers tune in my truck and he has done about 4 retunes for me as i have upgraded on my engine.as i just added a radix to my truck the first tune for that was way too conservative as it pulled the timing back to almost zero but i should have a new tune tommorow.i also just purchased efi live so i can log my passes and a wide bando2.you cant expect someone to do a great tune on a vehicle thats been modified like yours and mine threw the mail with no vehicle sensor inputs or you risk not making alot of power .
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