lsa and cam?
#11
General info:
.........................Varying Lobe Separation Angle.....................................
...............Tighten............................ ..............Widen
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Moves Torque to Lower RPM..............Raise Torque to Higher RPM
Increases Maximum Torque................Reduces Maximum Torque
Narrow Powerband...........................Broadens Power Band
Builds Higher Cylinder Pressure............Reduce Maximum Cylinder Pressure
Increase Chance of Engine Knock........Decrease Chance of Engine Knock
Increase Cranking Compression...........Decrease Cranking Compression
Increase Efective Compression...........Decrease Efective Compression
Idle Vacuum is Reduced....................Idle Vacuum is Increased
Idle Quality Suffers..........................Idle Quality Improves
Open Valve-Overlap Increases...........Open Valve-Overlap Decreases
Closed Valve-Overlap Increases.........Closed Valve-Overlap Decreases
Natural EGR Efect Increases..............Natural EGR Efect is Reduced
Decreases Piston-to-Valve Clerance....Increases Piston-to-Valve Clerance
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.........................Advancing/Retarding Cam Timing................................
...............Advancing.......................... ........Retarding
*Begins Intake Event Sooner...................Delays Intake Event
*Open Intake Valve Sooner...............Opens Intake Valve Open Later
*Builds More Low-End Torque..............Builds More High-End Torque
*Decrease Piston-Intake........................Increase Piston-Intake
...Valve Clearance................................... Valve Clearance
*Increase Piston-Exhaust........................Decrease Piston-Exhaust
....Valve Clearance.....................................Valv e Clearance
NOW: bear in mind what SportSide said. All of these things **ARE RELATIVE** and assume you are comparing the SAME duration cam with different LSA. LSA should be used as a guide to your thinking, not as a replacement for designing your valve-events to what you need (or talking to someone like Richard@WCCH, Roger@Vinci, etc.
.........................Varying Lobe Separation Angle.....................................
...............Tighten............................ ..............Widen
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Moves Torque to Lower RPM..............Raise Torque to Higher RPM
Increases Maximum Torque................Reduces Maximum Torque
Narrow Powerband...........................Broadens Power Band
Builds Higher Cylinder Pressure............Reduce Maximum Cylinder Pressure
Increase Chance of Engine Knock........Decrease Chance of Engine Knock
Increase Cranking Compression...........Decrease Cranking Compression
Increase Efective Compression...........Decrease Efective Compression
Idle Vacuum is Reduced....................Idle Vacuum is Increased
Idle Quality Suffers..........................Idle Quality Improves
Open Valve-Overlap Increases...........Open Valve-Overlap Decreases
Closed Valve-Overlap Increases.........Closed Valve-Overlap Decreases
Natural EGR Efect Increases..............Natural EGR Efect is Reduced
Decreases Piston-to-Valve Clerance....Increases Piston-to-Valve Clerance
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
.........................Advancing/Retarding Cam Timing................................
...............Advancing.......................... ........Retarding
*Begins Intake Event Sooner...................Delays Intake Event
*Open Intake Valve Sooner...............Opens Intake Valve Open Later
*Builds More Low-End Torque..............Builds More High-End Torque
*Decrease Piston-Intake........................Increase Piston-Intake
...Valve Clearance................................... Valve Clearance
*Increase Piston-Exhaust........................Decrease Piston-Exhaust
....Valve Clearance.....................................Valv e Clearance
NOW: bear in mind what SportSide said. All of these things **ARE RELATIVE** and assume you are comparing the SAME duration cam with different LSA. LSA should be used as a guide to your thinking, not as a replacement for designing your valve-events to what you need (or talking to someone like Richard@WCCH, Roger@Vinci, etc.
#12
I just was curious how much you would need to tighten the lsa on a 224 cam to get a power range of, say, 3000 to 6000, give or take 200 rpm (keeping stock heads and intake).
Or would there be any gain in hp or torque with the above setup over the gain with a cam with that rpm range already?
I guess what I am lookig for is a max effort cam for the above powerband with the mods listed below (maybe bump up the converter).
Or would there be any gain in hp or torque with the above setup over the gain with a cam with that rpm range already?
I guess what I am lookig for is a max effort cam for the above powerband with the mods listed below (maybe bump up the converter).
Last edited by Silver-Dollar; Apr 18, 2007 at 09:15 AM.
#13
Originally Posted by Silver-Dollar
Say you had a cam that spec'ed out at 220/220 .581/.581 112+4. And you had a 224/224 .581/.581 cut down on a LSA that match the peak rpm of the 220/220 cam. Would the custom 224 make more peak power? How would the 2600 to 3600 rpms compare?
#14
I am only focusing on peak power because I do not want to spin the motor past 6200 rpms. I dont know why really. I do understand that torque is where it is at for a truck. But with the higher duration cam, peak torque moves up in rpm with peak hp. And that is whay i was looking at LSA, because if you bring HP peak rpm down by using the LSA, I would think, naturally the torque peak rpm should come down or make peak TQ sooner.
#15
Originally Posted by Silver-Dollar
I am only focusing on peak power because I do not want to spin the motor past 6200 rpms. I dont know why really. I do understand that torque is where it is at for a truck. But with the higher duration cam, peak torque moves up in rpm with peak hp. And that is whay i was looking at LSA, because if you bring HP peak rpm down by using the LSA, I would think, naturally the torque peak rpm should come down or make peak TQ sooner.
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