im a poor little student looking for a decent tune. whats the best hand held programmer on the market. I know everyone likes the nelson and w4m tunes. but i dont wanna drop 600 on a nelson tune. I dont think there is anyplace in my town that does crank relearns for the w4m tune.but (idk about that.) but anyways any and all opinons and help are greatly appreciated.

 

Where are you located? No handheld is worth it unless its free.

 

when i was still just bolton's my predator did a great job for me. the new ones are even better.

 

The only thing mine was good for is shift point changes and raising the speed limiter, and less mpg. more power, not enough to justify the price. felt faster with-out the perditor.
Funny thing is, I use it more as a scan tool than I ever did programing. But I have heard they have got better.

4.8, Not every tune is going to need a relearn, A Nelson tune might need one too. Just never know. I wouldn't waste my time with a hand held, for the price of a hand held, buy HP TUners and learn to tune it your-self.

 

i do concur with the price of hpt and buying it. if you have a laptop or can have access to one. your better off. you can download bin files to help you get started. my pred made a diff for me in my truck. i will be like everyone else though, save more money and get tuning software or pay for a tune from one of the sponsors....

 

handheld = $400 no real hp gains
w4me = $150 20+hp free updates
easy decision if u ask me

 

so what are some syptoms of a crarnk relearn?? no power gains??? not running right?? i had no idea the w4m was that cheap..... And are the pcm's hard to change out???

 

Crank relearn will just throw a code and turn on the check engine light, thats it. Any GM dealer can do them. PCM takes about 5 mins and a 7mm socket to change. It's right next to your battery under a plastic cover.

 

A PCM swap takes 15 minutes if you've never picked up a tool......it's under a protective plastic cover in the engine bay near the battery.

 

And what experience do you have with handhelds ? Saying handhelds give no real hp gains shows your ignorance on the subject. There are others out there besides hyper ping and they do make HP, it all depends on what your looking for.