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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by treyZ28
mostly keep the headers from rusting. Their heat retention properties are highly over rated.
Really? IDK, mine are hot enough to scald but you can actually touch them while the engine is running. Can you do that with non-coated or stainless? Also right after as you kill the engine they are cool.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by trever1t
Really? IDK, mine are hot enough to scald but you can actually touch them while the engine is running. Can you do that with non-coated or stainless? Also right after as you kill the engine they are cool.
Its not to say they dont do anything, please dont take it as that. Header wrap is far better for heat retention. The coating is really just too thing to be effective. I want to steal some stuff from work, but i have a feeling uncle sam wouldn't like that. Our chit is good to thousands of degrees
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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I have heard both sides on the coating, some say uncoated makes more power. Also, doesn't a cool gas take up less room than a hot gas? Would that make your exhaust pipe size requirement smaller if the heat was lost and the gas contracted? I will be coating my set of headers just to keep the engine bay temps down, does anyone have dyno #s coated vs. uncoated?
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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One thing to keep in mind is that header wrap will void any warranty on most headers.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Stoichiometric
I have heard both sides on the coating, some say uncoated makes more power. Also, doesn't a cool gas take up less room than a hot gas? Would that make your exhaust pipe size requirement smaller if the heat was lost and the gas contracted? I will be coating my set of headers just to keep the engine bay temps down, does anyone have dyno #s coated vs. uncoated?
hotter air will be at a higher pressure and flow out faster. thats the idea. it has more energy.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Moze
One thing to keep in mind is that header wrap will void any warranty on most headers.
is this because the wrap can trap water and force rusting?
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by slownlow4.8
what the differances between coated and non-coated headers?
...about 200 bucks
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by silverbrick
is this because the wrap can trap water and force rusting?
The header wrap actually increases the temperature of the gas inside the primary to the point where mild steel starts to burn. The headers fail from the inside out. Ceramic coating is good because they coat the inside of the pipe as well as the outside, it protects the steel from those temps.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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not all ceramic headers are all the way coated, most are though, my p/s lt's are all the way through. the higher heat produces a faster scavenging process. I've personally expierenced much cooler engine bay temps, I still need to wrap my K&N fipk with header wrap.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Stoichiometric
The header wrap actually increases the temperature of the gas inside the primary to the point where mild steel starts to burn. The headers fail from the inside out. Ceramic coating is good because they coat the inside of the pipe as well as the outside, it protects the steel from those temps.
i wouldn't wrap a mild steel header. I've worked with stainless headers on a high output turbo motor which were wrapped- no problems.
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