well the eng was upside down when i put the plate on and it went on smooth so i thought all was good so i didn't inspect like i should have and just assumed it was good. but oh well just more garage time but it shall be worth it when i'm screaming down the road

 

Ditto on that one. GM actually makes alignment tools for this stuff. Its best to get the pan on before you tighten the rear cover too. Front main leaks on some guys that forget and TQ the cover down before the pulley is on the crank snout.

 

Just the opposite,I would tighten the pan last,the rear cover will self align on the crank if there is no pressure from the oil pan,same with the front,before tightening the oil pan loosly install the front cover,install the crank pulley to align the front cover(may have had the pulley on most of the way when tightening the front cover),now tighten the front cover bolts.Lastly tighten the oil pan to spec.This is how i remember doing it.Anyone else feel free to jump in.

 

I agree. My mistake was trying to align the edge of the cover to the block. Had I installed the cover and allowed the crank to set the alignment the leak probably would not have happened.
Set the cover, torque, then install the pan.

 

well i had the pan already installed. remimber i'm doing this in the truck well anyhow i took the plate off and pulled the seal bought a new one installed the cover the the new seal had a plastic ring thing with it so i pushed the ring into the seal to hold it out some and push it all up against the crank then just swiftly pushed the ring in and the pastic poped out. its all in i'll give her a couple of days to make sure before i say anything but my garage floor was clean last night when i started it so that is a plus i guess.

 

Good luck, we'll keep the fingers crossed for ya!
BTW, mine did not leak right off but waited a day or two after driving it.

 

thanks, but don't tell me that ****. lol well the first one leaked right off the freaking bat well the plastic ring keep oil off the inside of the seal just oiled the out side like it said the i put on the fly wheel to push it in the rest of the way the removed it then push it in the little bit that was left.

 

Now notice guys, I didnt say tighten it!!

 

It does come with that plastic retainer. But still, its a pain in the *** man.

 

Is the plastic retainer an installation tool or part of the seal? I've read about the special GM tool that's used to install the rear main, and after reading about rear main leak horror stories, I'm gonna buy that tool if it's necessary.