408 or Radix
#11
Just throwing out options. Not doing either one anytime soon but I have Always wanted a 408 but the radix would be a much easier install. I can install the motor myself so that isn't a problem. Just wanting something with some decent power and stock driveablity. May even think about a cammed 6.0. How would gas mileage be on a mild 408.
#12
Originally Posted by greentahoe
For ease and hassle free power. You cant beat the Radix. It would probably be cheaper out the door. I think a 408 with mild cam and headers would be pretty sick. Check out the VicRed and 03 GMC video. 03GMC has a Radix and Vic has a cammed LS1, you would have about 62 more cubes. Of course last I heard 03GMC was using the stock pulley so he could pulley down for more power. I dont think you can lose either way. Can you do an engine swap?
#13
Don't put your credit card up yet. That 408 is just a short block. Don't sell that 5.3 either, you'll need lots of donor parts off of it.
You'll need to add:
heads
valve springs
cam
front cover
rear cover
valve covers
valley cover
oil pan
pickup tube
windage tray
gaskets all the way around
bolts all the way around
timing chain set
oil pump
lifters
lifter cups
pushrods
rockers
Plus:
tune
injectors
fuel pump
Quite a few of the above items will need to be new or at least upgraded aftermarket items. The Radix will end up cheaper.
You'll need to add:
heads
valve springs
cam
front cover
rear cover
valve covers
valley cover
oil pan
pickup tube
windage tray
gaskets all the way around
bolts all the way around
timing chain set
oil pump
lifters
lifter cups
pushrods
rockers
Plus:
tune
injectors
fuel pump
Quite a few of the above items will need to be new or at least upgraded aftermarket items. The Radix will end up cheaper.
#14
Originally Posted by O3GMC
keep in mind he shifts at 6400 vs my 5800 


This is a tough call for me...I want to say 408, but gas mileage and driveability might suffer. Either way you go, be sure to look into upgrading the tranny (shift kit, servos, converter) and getting an Eaton/Auburn posi if you don't already have one.
If it were me, I'd go 408, but that's only because I would get a big nasty cam to go with it.
#16
Originally Posted by BigTex
Don't put your credit card up yet. That 408 is just a short block. Don't sell that 5.3 either, you'll need lots of donor parts off of it.
You'll need to add:
heads
valve springs
cam
front cover
rear cover
valve covers
valley cover
oil pan
pickup tube
windage tray
gaskets all the way around
bolts all the way around
timing chain set
oil pump
lifters
lifter cups
pushrods
rockers
Plus:
tune
injectors
fuel pump
Quite a few of the above items will need to be new or at least upgraded aftermarket items. The Radix will end up cheaper.
You'll need to add:
heads
valve springs
cam
front cover
rear cover
valve covers
valley cover
oil pan
pickup tube
windage tray
gaskets all the way around
bolts all the way around
timing chain set
oil pump
lifters
lifter cups
pushrods
rockers
Plus:
tune
injectors
fuel pump
Quite a few of the above items will need to be new or at least upgraded aftermarket items. The Radix will end up cheaper.
#17
Originally Posted by BigTex
Don't put your credit card up yet. That 408 is just a short block. Don't sell that 5.3 either, you'll need lots of donor parts off of it.
You'll need to add:
heads
valve springs
cam
front cover
rear cover
valve covers
valley cover
oil pan
pickup tube
windage tray
gaskets all the way around
bolts all the way around
timing chain set
oil pump
lifters
lifter cups
pushrods
rockers
Plus:
tune
injectors
fuel pump
Quite a few of the above items will need to be new or at least upgraded aftermarket items. The Radix will end up cheaper.
You'll need to add:
heads
valve springs
cam
front cover
rear cover
valve covers
valley cover
oil pan
pickup tube
windage tray
gaskets all the way around
bolts all the way around
timing chain set
oil pump
lifters
lifter cups
pushrods
rockers
Plus:
tune
injectors
fuel pump
Quite a few of the above items will need to be new or at least upgraded aftermarket items. The Radix will end up cheaper.
The rotating assembly / short block is the cheap part. Trust me on this
Plus, as Richard points out, you'll definately want aftermarket heads, cam, tune, injectors, pump, pushrods (get a hardened set), gaskets, bolts, and the stock parts. All that definately loots your 5.3 and will still end up costing you another $3500 - 4000.The real question is your goals. If you want a 'mild' 408 for the coolness factor, it is a very expensive option and a radix is just as cool. If you want modest to wow hp (500 or less), and are on a budget, I think radix is the answer. If you want monster hp (like 600+) down the road, then I think the 408 is the answer.
#19
i'd go with the 408. use your 5.3 heads and have the larger intake valves installed to go with new springs, retainers, etc.. from there just go with a mild cam and buy some injectors. the rest of the items are good to have, but from there you'll have a truck just as drivable as one with a radix, but with alot more room for the future. whether you have a radix or 408 you're going to want to do your own tuning or have it done which would equall out. if you treat it as a straight forward engine swap you'll keep cost down, if you just keep adding as you go the radix will be the better deal.
#20
There's a reason all the shops I was talking to about a 408 came around to the same amount...between $8,000 and $10,000....because that's what it costs to build a 408. If you have a spare $8,000 laying around with lots of free time, I'd say call some of the vendors on the right and start pricing components. If you have a spare $10,000 and less time, then see if they will build and warranty it. But if all you have is $5K and a weekend, well, you know what the answer is by now...


