4.10's and Detroit Locker
#12
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From: Montgomery,tx
Oxidizr congrats on the new #'s they are great. Sorry for the off key in the other post. I still don't see why people shun on progress and the search for HP. I wouldn't have pushed my truck like i did if it was not for you. I saw your #'s and figured it was attainable so what the hell... I just chose a little differnt coarse. I think the stock short block can handle this power if, this power is made and used in moderation. I've sprayed this thing more in a month and half than most people would in a year. Thanks for the good #'s that got me started on mine. Lets see where we can take this... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Last edited by hyde; Apr 8, 2011 at 04:31 PM.
#13
Big Tex:
I actually got 4 pulls in but my primary concern was N2O and fuel tuning/injector monitoring (I was on the dyno over an hour not including set-up and strap down.) I did one baseline and netted 274 RWHP/310 RWTQ - HPP3 power tuning off and running 64 PSI WOT fuel pressure, a little too rrich for n/a. This seems to be right on par (291 RWHP/347 RWTQ - was my previous best with 93 octane tuning and running at 60 PSI @ WOT) as the combined loss of the HPP3 tuning and 4.10's definately eats a good 20 RWHP/25 RWTQ.
Brandon:
The locker doesn't bother me on the street, but is NOT the most streetable set-up. A good posi has a much more fluid transistion from slipping to "locking" and thus gives much better street manners. The locker on the otherhand is binary (on-off) and the lack of a transistion is not unpridictable but abrupt. If you're cruising more than racing get the posi...otherwise some loud music on a gentle bend on some wet conditions can quickly become a hazard as you can definatley make a bad situation worse with improper application of throttle. This statement is true for a driver unfamiliar with the oversteer condition created with a spool and especially a locker-essentially too much and too little throttle will switch the vehicle back and forth from open to spool erraticlly. Couple that with a vehicle which maintains only 30-35% of its weight in tha back and you can have a nerve racking experience.
Hyde:
Thanks...PM'ed you
Richard
I actually got 4 pulls in but my primary concern was N2O and fuel tuning/injector monitoring (I was on the dyno over an hour not including set-up and strap down.) I did one baseline and netted 274 RWHP/310 RWTQ - HPP3 power tuning off and running 64 PSI WOT fuel pressure, a little too rrich for n/a. This seems to be right on par (291 RWHP/347 RWTQ - was my previous best with 93 octane tuning and running at 60 PSI @ WOT) as the combined loss of the HPP3 tuning and 4.10's definately eats a good 20 RWHP/25 RWTQ.
Brandon:
The locker doesn't bother me on the street, but is NOT the most streetable set-up. A good posi has a much more fluid transistion from slipping to "locking" and thus gives much better street manners. The locker on the otherhand is binary (on-off) and the lack of a transistion is not unpridictable but abrupt. If you're cruising more than racing get the posi...otherwise some loud music on a gentle bend on some wet conditions can quickly become a hazard as you can definatley make a bad situation worse with improper application of throttle. This statement is true for a driver unfamiliar with the oversteer condition created with a spool and especially a locker-essentially too much and too little throttle will switch the vehicle back and forth from open to spool erraticlly. Couple that with a vehicle which maintains only 30-35% of its weight in tha back and you can have a nerve racking experience.
Hyde:
Thanks...PM'ed you
Richard
#14
Hyde,
Looks like you know what you are doing.....
That was a mighty impressive number you are posting. How is the motor holding up? I was wondering, what else have you blown up lately?...
You mentioned you race 4-wheelers and Bikes as well, any mis-haps? By the way, yes I signed on, I was bored. Clowneeooo! <img border="0" alt="[boring]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_zzz.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[pimp]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_pimp.gif" />
Looks like you know what you are doing.....
That was a mighty impressive number you are posting. How is the motor holding up? I was wondering, what else have you blown up lately?...
You mentioned you race 4-wheelers and Bikes as well, any mis-haps? By the way, yes I signed on, I was bored. Clowneeooo! <img border="0" alt="[boring]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_zzz.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[pimp]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_pimp.gif" />
#15
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From: Montgomery,tx
RYU...ahiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.........Everybody was Kung fool fighting...
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Last edited by hyde; Apr 8, 2011 at 04:31 PM.
#16
HYDE, thats some funny phucking **** dude! L O L!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
#17
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by XLR8NSS:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gandolphxx:
<strong>Interesting, why will it make street launching more difficult, I think I am missing something here - thanks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">2wd pickup, 4.10 gears, street tires = blazing tires <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
It'll be harder to control tire spin with street tires since the engine will want to rev much quicker with the lower gear.
John</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OH, an attack of dumb, I had the brain in reverse - thanks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gandolphxx:
<strong>Interesting, why will it make street launching more difficult, I think I am missing something here - thanks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">2wd pickup, 4.10 gears, street tires = blazing tires <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
It'll be harder to control tire spin with street tires since the engine will want to rev much quicker with the lower gear.
John</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OH, an attack of dumb, I had the brain in reverse - thanks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
#18
Hyde,
It was inevitable that you would sucumb to the Kung Foo fighting crack, but shouldn't it have been "I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so...." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> or "Somtimes I dream that he is me, If I could be like Ryu, I wanna be, I wanna be like Ryu...." <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" /> Cuz you are the smartest white guy I know..... Regardless, big John Hyde is truning the trifecta, yah the BIG 30 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> , this week, so everyone wish him a happy birthday!
It was inevitable that you would sucumb to the Kung Foo fighting crack, but shouldn't it have been "I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so...." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> or "Somtimes I dream that he is me, If I could be like Ryu, I wanna be, I wanna be like Ryu...." <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" /> Cuz you are the smartest white guy I know..... Regardless, big John Hyde is truning the trifecta, yah the BIG 30 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> , this week, so everyone wish him a happy birthday!
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It's hard to hook anything at Carlsbad. You should bring the truck over to Irwindale on Thursday nights. Good traction (usually), and lots of runs if you get there ~4-4:30.
I'm planning on putting 4.10s and a torsen posi in my little S10. I've got like 3 sets of drag tires sitting around in the garage, I'll probably try out the 28" ET streets when I get the gears/posi.
I'm planning on putting 4.10s and a torsen posi in my little S10. I've got like 3 sets of drag tires sitting around in the garage, I'll probably try out the 28" ET streets when I get the gears/posi.


