1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

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Dec 11, 2002 | 10:15 AM

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red53gmc

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Re: 1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

Don't mean to bash, just trying to figure out where $1300 is spent at. <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by FLP:
Here are a few things to consider...
1)This header won "Best New GM Product" at SEMA.
2)This header also won runner up for "Best New Exhaust Product" at SEMA.<hr /></blockquote>
How much does this cost? <blockquote>quote:<hr />
3)This header system is a complete kit with 2 high flow cats, y-pipe, all bolts, gaskets, and clamps.
4)304 stainless steel.
5)No welding required and the stock system remains intact if you decide to put the truck back to stock at a later date.
<hr /></blockquote>I can find cheaper labor that can fab up the same for a lot less. <blockquote>quote:<hr />
5)Will bolt up to any cat back.<hr /></blockquote>
Most people already have fabbed up exhaust systems. Some don't though. <blockquote>quote:<hr />
6)18 rwhp gain on a STOCK 5.3 truck (with cats).<hr /></blockquote> I got 22 with my Hamm's. <blockquote>quote:<hr />
7)Looking to be CARB approved by release date.
8)If enough interest is expressed, an off-road y-pipe may be offered.<hr /></blockquote>What if there is enough interest in only the headers? That's where you'll make you're money at. Headers only. Remember, you're talking to truck guys here. We didn't go all out for the SS or WS6(and the insurance). I, for one, want to spend the least amount of money as possible.

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Dec 11, 2002 | 10:51 AM

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MarineBlue03GMC

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Re: 1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

I agree. How much could a set of pre welded high flow cats cost, maybe $250-$300 at the most. On top of the cost of a set of AS&M's thats about $950-$1000. So the rest of the extra cost ($300)goes for the y pipe, clamps and gaskets!?

That doesnt seem right. They do look VERY nice and I am sure they make nice power but I think going with a set of basic headers without the cats would be the best way to go, or at least get the price down to no more than $900-$1000, which is still hard to swallow.

Like I said they look great and that y pipe is very nice. I just think to really sell them and be competitive one has to price them more affordably. I couldnt imagine the addition of the y pipe and cats making more than 5 hp of a difference over the basic AS&M or other high quality long tubes.

I also agree that we are truck owners, not Corvette Z06 owners. Considering that I think these headers may be a little over the top.

Dec 11, 2002 | 01:10 PM

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Re: 1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by FLP:
3)

6)18 rwhp gain on a STOCK 5.3 truck (with cats).

<hr /></blockquote>I'd like to see a dyno chart and know torque numbers as well.What rpm's does the power come in at,and peak at....hp and torque?

Dec 11, 2002 | 03:06 PM

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Re: 1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

An offroad pipe would Definitely be necessary! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Dec 11, 2002 | 03:32 PM

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Re: 1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

Off-Road Y-pipe would be an ABSOLUT requirement for me to buy them.

having read what other people say and comparing the price to ASM's (my original choice) looks like they may be a better choice.....

As far as stainless goes......I dont really take my truck to very many shows, I like to keep it clen, but I just assume the headders be black as anything else, so that doesnt mean crap to me, i'd have em coated anyway.

Get some #'s on a 4.8, and you may renew my intrest......

Dec 11, 2002 | 04:48 PM

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JWRENCH

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Re: 1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

Man, that is just flipping nuts! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> You know it dosen't cost any more to build them then it does to build a set that would sell for three or four hundred. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

Damn, they sure look purdy though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

Dec 11, 2002 | 05:01 PM

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Re: 1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

i bought a set of high-flow cats from texas performance for like $80 each x 2 = $160 /
you do the math. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Dec 11, 2002 | 07:48 PM

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Re: 1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

I really had been wishing someone would build something like this before I get headers but for $1300 I guess I will be going with the asm's. The Y pipe isn't worth that much. <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />

Dec 11, 2002 | 10:46 PM

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Re: 1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

Yes, these things are priicey. I can arrange for AS&M headers, 2 Car Sound high flow cats and a custom Y-pipe installed for that cost and much less for parts only. BUT, largely what you are paying for is the CARB certification (testing for this is NOT cheap nor easily achieved--note o2 sensor locations) and the "total package" as was outlined by FLP's earlier post.

This is a pricey venture to partake and isn't for the average bolt-on consumer. FLP has proven its performance in the past and I assume will have equally impressive results, but again this product is not for everyone. Some will be best suited using some of the existing options which have proven performance and are for the budget minded.

I'll be curious to see some quantitative and comparative data on this product (on stock but especially modified vehicles.)

Dec 11, 2002 | 11:33 PM

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Re: 1.75 inch long tube LS1 truck header will be available February 2003!!!

Living in Oklahoma where we have NO emmissions testing and dont even have inspections anymore CARB means absolutely nothing to me. However I do like the fact that the come with all of the o2 fittings etc. I dont much care for the clamps either, all my exaust is welded, the only way to go in my mind.

Anyway, i'm interested to see where these go in the future, an off-road y-pipe would be essential for me, so keep us posted.