Th400 or 4l80...?
#12
I've had both in my truck. I liked the TH400 but I ran 4.10 gears and it was a bitch to get on the freeway. I have a 25 min 65mph freeway drive to work and it got old. I really like my 4l80e. I just like having the ability to tune shift points, firmness, ect.
#13
Frankly, I'm surprised the th400 isn't a more popular swap here. I seriously considered it, but didn't feel like having to change the crossmember and driveshaft since I had already been running the 80 for several years. I don't drive my truck much at all so it made a lot of sense. The th400 can be built stronger for cheaper. No OD isn't a big deal to me. Just wasn't sure how I'd feel about driving around with no lockup on a 3400 converter.
A turbo setup would be different tho. Most people here run small cams,small converters, and streetable gears with a turbo setup. This IMO, makes a th400 swap a lot more driveable.
#14
One point I haven't seen mentioned here yet is final drive ratio. With the power level goals you have you don't need low rear end gears for a strong launch because traction problems would make first gear useless. Consider swapping to 2.76:1 gears as part of the expense of choosing the TH400 over the 4L80-E. This will keep the RPM down on the highway and move the range of shiftpoints higher up in MPH. (First gear WOT in that scenario would take you to 75+ mph.)
You're used to the wide gear ratios and overall range of a 4L60-E. With a 4L80-E you lose overall range in favor of closer ratios. A TH400 has the same ratios and range of the the first three gears of a 4L80-E but you lose the 0.75:1 overdrive making it the narrowest overall range choice of the three transmissions.
You're used to the wide gear ratios and overall range of a 4L60-E. With a 4L80-E you lose overall range in favor of closer ratios. A TH400 has the same ratios and range of the the first three gears of a 4L80-E but you lose the 0.75:1 overdrive making it the narrowest overall range choice of the three transmissions.
#17
Frankly, I'm surprised the th400 isn't a more popular swap here. I seriously considered it, but didn't feel like having to change the crossmember and driveshaft since I had already been running the 80 for several years. I don't drive my truck much at all so it made a lot of sense. The th400 can be built stronger for cheaper. No OD isn't a big deal to me. Just wasn't sure how I'd feel about driving around with no lockup on a 3400 converter.
Not necessarily. A 4L80E is a much better option than a TH400 with a GV overdrive unit. The GV sounds nice on paper, but it most certainly has it's downsides that do not come with a 4L80E. If you do not have an electronic speedo, although it is stupidly costly for what it is, a mechanical speedo/tailhousing setup on a 4L80E is still the way to go.
#18
Not necessarily. A 4L80E is a much better option than a TH400 with a GV overdrive unit. The GV sounds nice on paper, but it most certainly has it's downsides that do not come with a 4L80E. If you do not have an electronic speedo, although it is stupidly costly for what it is, a mechanical speedo/tailhousing setup on a 4L80E is still the way to go.
#19
Well I build racing TH400s and 4L80Es professionally, so I've seen a number of them over time, but have not run one myself. My old boss, who owned the shop I worked for (Jake's Performance), had one on his Chevelle and also hated it. How many TH400s have you built and how many GV's have you installed?
#20
I'm not a transmission builder. Never said I was. So I've never built a TH400. I ran one in my truck for a while but I had a pro build it. I'm curious at what problems you have run into with the GV's




