Well then make both and send me the cal trac style.

 

You really want some?
I know of someone that will paint them professionally also.. if not ill throw some flat black on them..

 

shouldnt they actually work the same?caltracs use they weight of the vehicle to push down on the tires.they get that weight from the instant center point like a ladder bar.same thing as the long bars right?except the long bars connect almost at the point .drop the front mounting hole and the caltracs would be as long as you needed them to be.

 

The way cals are set up they are actually pulling the front of the spring down, vs trying to transfer weight back, I do believe..

John

 

how the rear end lifts the same way under acceleration no matter what bar is on the truck

 

No, what they do is allow you to pre-load the torquing affect of the rear axle on the leaf spring by pre-loading it by pushing on the eye/end of the spring. This way, there is no suspension binding as you woulds get with trying to pre-load the torquing by pushing from the frame to the spring, like a long bar would to. Neither bar is really designed to push up or down on the truck, they both are trying to stop the axle from "torquing" or twisting the leaf spring which is what causes tire spin and axle hoping. Make since?

 

my way of thinking is the cal tracs work the same as a bolt on ladder bar without having to use the floating housing setup.i cant see how they can work any way exceopt exactly like a ladder bar.no matter how they are attached to the rearend they are attached and therefore will move the same way and no matter how they attach to the frame either at the spring perch or a bar welded across the frame halfs they are still attached to the frame and they have a moveable front location for instant center ajustments thus they work exactly the same way

 

I see what your saying..

But a long bar only tries to keep the axle from turning from that one point from the cup..

The caltracs take the "torque" force and actually push down harder on the front of the leaf spring.

Not sure if that is a good explanation tho..

 

That axle rotational force (energy) has to go somewhere... "energy is neither created nor destoryed"... This is my opinion, with stock suspension the rotational energy centers around the axle tube, that is why the leaf springs turn into a "S".... With long bars the pivot point for the rotationinal energy is moved foward to the front mounting location of the long bar.... Same rotation direction, so it would drive the but end of the truck into the ground and the front of the truck skyward.... Keeping with "energy is neither created nor destoryed" idea, the rotational force is still present but it is moved away from the axle tube.... The lightning guys swear by the long bars....

like the crude drawing....

 

Good drawing ,to show a lil bit. This is my put look, could be wrong could be right, if the 3rd picture down reps the caltracs, that it is not only pulling down on the front(loading) of the axle but also tranfering weight back, the harder it excells the more down pressure is placed on the front of the spring. So it is keeping it from wraping and at the same time planting and transfering weight. The long bar is lifting, tranfering weight back an but is only stoping axle wrap is reling on the weight transfer to keep the wheels planted... Either way it is way better then nothing


John