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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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I have 24" rims on my Tahoe. The stock 3:73's are getting swapped. I have a set of OEM 4:10's in the garage with an Eaton LSD. Am I going to notice a change with gear swap? I know most say on stock tires 3:73 to 4:10 is not much, but when you’re runnin' tires that are 8 sizes bigger than stock, maybe it will be noticeable. Or should I send them back for some 4:56's? It is a daily driver and the big wheels may come off one day. Opinions?
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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If You Are Looking For Performance Go With The 4:56. Cause If You Think About It 3:73 To 4:10 Is Not A Big Jump. Probably Wont Even Notice It.
If I Was In Your Shoes I Would Go With 4:56 With That Big Of A Wheel Tire Combo. Hope I Have Been A Help

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I'm trying to get back the stock feel. The take off is a little slower on the 24's than on the stock 16's of course. I figured going up a gear size would level the field so to speak. If I go 4:56, and then go back to stock tires, that may be a little nuts. Does anybody know of a calculator where you enter tire size and current gear ratio and it estimates you your new gear ratio?
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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ttt for me.
I might be ordering the 4:56's tomorrow so I'm looking for more opinions or experinced people to chime in.
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What is the overall diameter (OD) on your tires? Although I have 20's, my OD is the same as my stock tires....32". Going from 3.73's to 4.10's, I noticed a significant difference in off-the-line response, such that there is zero hesitation or lag getting going.

If it weren't for the gas hit, I'd be 100% pleased with my swap. 4.56's were not even in the running....no way I'd want to be spinning 3000 RPM's on the freeway at speed.
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From the ground to the top of the tire is 32" (305/35/24) if I remember correctly. I was worried about freeway speeds as well. I don't want to shift into overdrive and be at 2000+ rpm. I guess with our heavy *** trucks the 3:73 to 4:10 swap is more noticeable than the RCSB guys. The stock tires were about 30" from the ground to the top of the tire (265/70/16) so not too big of a difference.
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From the calcs I have done a 29" tall tire with 3.73s is almost exactly the same as a 32" tall tire with 4.10s.

A 32" tall tire with 4.56s is about the same as a 29" tall tire with 4.10s. LOL

I used the calcs at SmokeEMup.com
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Originally Posted by Baumgardner2051
From the ground to the top of the tire is 32" (305/35/24) if I remember correctly. I was worried about freeway speeds as well. I don't want to shift into overdrive and be at 2000+ rpm. I guess with our heavy *** trucks the 3:73 to 4:10 swap is more noticeable than the RCSB guys. The stock tires were about 30" from the ground to the top of the tire (265/70/16) so not too big of a difference.
With 3.73's and 32" tires like you, I was running 2000 RPM's at 70 mph, the outside edge of our motor's efficiency with regards to gas mileage (1800-2000 is the sweet spot with LS1's with regards to mileage). Even though I would often run at 75 MPH, I was still getting 19 MPG, even with the Radix.

Once I swapped out to 4.10's, all those RPM's jumped 10%. So, instead of running at 2000 RPM's at 70 MPH, I am now running 2200 RPM's, with a corresponding drop to 17 MPG. And those times when I have to go 80 MPH to stay up with traffic, instead of running at 2250 RPM's, I am now running at 2500 RPM's. At that point, I am getting 15-16 MPG.

If you want that get-up-and-go that you had with the original tires, 4.10's will do you just fine, I can vouch for that. With 4.56's, you'll get some additional oomph, but it will come at a cost - you'll be running 2400 RPM's at 70 MPH, 2600 at 75 MPH, and 2750 at 80 MPH. I'd hate to see your gas mileage at that point.

Check out this calculator - just plug in your tire size, desired drive ratio (they call it final drive ratio but it is actually the rear end gears, two different things), 4L60/65 gearing (3.06, 1.63, 1, .70), our 6000 RPM redline, and use 50 RPM increments.
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3 points, first, for a 32" tall tire my personal preference would be 4.10's, however, lots of people like 4.56's as well.

Second, I have found the factory Tach in my truck to be anwhere from 100-200rpm off of actual engine rpm as monitored through an auxillary gauge and HPTuners software.

Naked- Maybe when you were seeing 19mpg you were actually in this efficiency range you speak of, rather than on its edge.

Third, I would use data logging software to actually track engine rpm over the dash Tach, IMO and if available, that would be a truer measuring stick.

also, if anyone else cares to test this, please do, and report back.
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Alright. you guys convinced me to stay with 4:10's. I'm already used to putting $50 a week in this thing so $55 wouldn't have made much difference with the 4:56. The highway rpm is what sold me. I don't think I could listen to the exhaust drone in OD at 2200+ rpm. I guess if I really want to feel the power I will just have to reduce or remove the bling bling. I still want to run the 24's at the track to see what my true street time is. Thanks for all the inputs.
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