80 is in
03-02-2010, 01:52 AM
#48
you're comparing apples to oranges...
My next build will be a 90% track truck that Ill drive a few miles a day to work and back. Ill still have my ext cab, with stock running gear to rely on if need be.
I'm looking for 500ish to the tire before spray, a properly built 60E in a 4000lb truck will live just fine. For my purposes, the gearing sucks. Everyone complains about the big difference between first and second with the 60E. Then complain about the tall 1st of the 80E. A stall converter cures both of those issues. My next build will be a 60E with a 42-4400 converter. I don't want the weight, rotational mass, or power loss that comes with the 80E. I've had several variations of both transmission (understatement of the year) and still prefer a proper 60E for a half ton. It has no place in anything bigger though and I'm a firm believer in that.
From what I've done with my truck Ill say this from experiences... If your 5000lbs and making 500+, do an 80E. If your 4000lbs and making 750+, do an 80E.. Anything less can be accomplished with a 60E and yeild better results... Like I said, these are my real world experiences and opinions... Take them as you may.
Nah, closer to two dozen
18 to be exact...
My next build will be a 90% track truck that Ill drive a few miles a day to work and back. Ill still have my ext cab, with stock running gear to rely on if need be.
I'm looking for 500ish to the tire before spray, a properly built 60E in a 4000lb truck will live just fine. For my purposes, the gearing sucks. Everyone complains about the big difference between first and second with the 60E. Then complain about the tall 1st of the 80E. A stall converter cures both of those issues. My next build will be a 60E with a 42-4400 converter. I don't want the weight, rotational mass, or power loss that comes with the 80E. I've had several variations of both transmission (understatement of the year) and still prefer a proper 60E for a half ton. It has no place in anything bigger though and I'm a firm believer in that.
From what I've done with my truck Ill say this from experiences... If your 5000lbs and making 500+, do an 80E. If your 4000lbs and making 750+, do an 80E.. Anything less can be accomplished with a 60E and yeild better results... Like I said, these are my real world experiences and opinions... Take them as you may.
Nah, closer to two dozen
18 to be exact...
So 4700# incl. driver, gas w/. 500RWHP...?Crazy Ben, just crazy. I think u a record or somethin.
BTW, I really really do hate electric windows. I'll take roll up windows anytime over this BS. Nothing to go wrong and you dont have to worry about the window freezing shut in the winter.
...can you really compare a premium $$$ built 60e to a $600 80e? Everybody's got different goals. The 80e is a lot cheaper and leaves a lot of room to grow in the future. That's how I see it.
...can you really compare a premium $$$ built 60e to a $600 80e? Everybody's got different goals. The 80e is a lot cheaper and leaves a lot of room to grow in the future. That's how I see it.
In winter, if I go to post office mailbox, I roll up to box & open my door. The regulator motor has more ***** than those cables for sure. Rollups are lite wtg tho. :nunchuk1: Back to trannies. Of course a $600 80E is cheaper than a premo 60E.
A 80E does have room for growth tho. But a $3K 60E vs a $3K 80E is still = in dollars. The 80 will outdo it in terms of strength cause now it prolly has a few tweaks.
Mike, I'm glad u like it.
03-02-2010, 02:15 AM
#49
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Cheap cables are used by GM to save $ & wtg. No more gears meshing on window regulators like older stuff. P/W are tops, unless it's cold out & u have these cable setups. Window freezes, u hit button, cable(s) break. I assure u sooner or later. In winter, if I go to post office mailbox, I roll up to box & open my door. The regulator motor has more ***** than those cables for sure. Rollups are lite wtg tho. :nunchuk1: [QUOTE]
Tom, those P/W motors don't weigh that much.....maybe you need to get to the gym more often.....
And don't forget to add in the price of fabbing a crossmember, and driveline corrections. Oh, and tuning......I'm sure the list goes on. 
Cheap cables are used by GM to save $ & wtg. No more gears meshing on window regulators like older stuff. P/W are tops, unless it's cold out & u have these cable setups. Window freezes, u hit button, cable(s) break. I assure u sooner or later.
In winter, if I go to post office mailbox, I roll up to box & open my door. The regulator motor has more ***** than those cables for sure. Rollups are lite wtg tho. :nunchuk1: [QUOTE]Tom, those P/W motors don't weigh that much.....maybe you need to get to the gym more often.....
Back to trannies. Of course a $600 80E is cheaper than a premo 60E.
A 80E does have room for growth tho. But a $3K 60E vs a $3K 80E is still = in dollars. The 80 will outdo it in terms of strength cause now it prolly has a few tweaks.
A 80E does have room for growth tho. But a $3K 60E vs a $3K 80E is still = in dollars. The 80 will outdo it in terms of strength cause now it prolly has a few tweaks.
