4l80e accleration
Guys. I need your help for a moment. I been confuse a lot. It seem not normal. I want see anyone who have 3209 stall with 5.7 4l80e accleration 0-60 mph video. Because I have small issues. I do have 4L80 LS Pro Series Stage III 258mm 2B and 347 forged motor. Vegenace racing tuning it. Told me my transmission act limp and sometimes not communicate well.
First of all I had trans converastion from 60e to 80e. I use Nelson performance harness plug and play for 80e. I had mad dog transmission built mine. Went bad again. Then second time rebuilt it. But why can't spin tires. I know my stall is built for boost turbo. I'm drive n/a for a while while I'm saving some money for vengeance racing to do my turbo stuff. I thought my 80e can spin tires on n/a??? From stop line take off seem not pull hard. Just feel normal. But my old 60e pull hard and can spin so easy. Anyone can help me out. |
I tried post video and won't let me
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The First gear ratio Is completely different between the 2 transmissions.
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At 450 rwhp, I could blast the rear tires off the rims almost from a dead stop with the 4l60e. After I swapped in the 4l80e, it doesn't leave near as hard off the line. I am going to swap from 3.42 gears to 4.10s. This would put you a bit closer back to where you were before the 80e swap too.
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I understand what yall trying to says. I was shock. Confused also. Because it is my first time experience swap 60e to 80e the reason im built for boost TURBO from trick kit I have in garage. But just got new motor built boost from TMS iron forged 347. So I put in 347 10.4:1 CR which is make around 450, 226/232 camshaft, got circle d 258 mm triple multi disk 3200 stall BILLET set good for boost. So, I wanted to run for n/a see how they doing good. After break in 500 miles, tuned by Vegeance Racing. Was going to dyno. But say my 80e have issues. I had mad dog transmission rebuilt twice! Say nothing wrong. Just fixed seal somewhere valvebodies. I was shock that my truck CANT burnout when I footbrake and gas same time. I saw rpm peak 3000 Still cant BURNOUT. I took it back to mad dog transmission and told them about that. THey took test drive. Kept say blame on my stall to much for on motor. Need turn down stall will allow you burnout? Is that true? Also the rearend is high 3.23 and the 80e have long gear. So that mean I need swap to 3.73 to make this better? Look like the stall cant do on n/a have to put turbo and will they able to burnout? I like burnout as always. I don't know when put turbo in. Maybe in few months. Right now my truck I drive daily to work. Gas is awful~ full gas almost 180 miles to under 1/4 It bother me. Any idea make this correct. The tune guy say my motor pretty good and tuned right. But stall suck. Have to turbo make stall do better. Can you help me out with all info. So I can learn something new. I still learning.
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n/a is a turd with a 4l80e, also 3.23 gears are crap with that transmission, get lower gears such as 3.73 or 4.10s. Once you get the turbo setup on you should be able to fry all day long. I light them up from a 75 roll on the highway.
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Originally Posted by GMCtrk
(Post 5302880)
n/a is a turd with a 4l80e, also 3.23 gears are crap with that transmission, get lower gears such as 3.73 or 4.10s. Once you get the turbo setup on you should be able to fry all day long. I light them up from a 75 roll on the highway.
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Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
(Post 5302861)
I understand what yall trying to says. I was shock. Confused also. Because it is my first time experience swap 60e to 80e the reason im built for boost TURBO from trick kit I have in garage. But just got new motor built boost from TMS iron forged 347. So I put in 347 10.4:1 CR which is make around 450, 226/232 camshaft, got circle d 258 mm triple multi disk 3200 stall BILLET set good for boost. So, I wanted to run for n/a see how they doing good. After break in 500 miles, tuned by Vegeance Racing. Was going to dyno. But say my 80e have issues. I had mad dog transmission rebuilt twice! Say nothing wrong. Just fixed seal somewhere valvebodies. I was shock that my truck CANT burnout when I footbrake and gas same time. I saw rpm peak 3000 Still cant BURNOUT. I took it back to mad dog transmission and told them about that. THey took test drive. Kept say blame on my stall to much for on motor. Need turn down stall will allow you burnout? Is that true? Also the rearend is high 3.23 and the 80e have long gear. So that mean I need swap to 3.73 to make this better? Look like the stall cant do on n/a have to put turbo and will they able to burnout? I like burnout as always. I don't know when put turbo in. Maybe in few months. Right now my truck I drive daily to work. Gas is awful~ full gas almost 180 miles to under 1/4 It bother me. Any idea make this correct. The tune guy say my motor pretty good and tuned right. But stall suck. Have to turbo make stall do better. Can you help me out with all info. So I can learn something new. I still learning.
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Interesting. I thought it could be stall problem but gear. Yeah I plan to get 1320 wheel racing 17" for that. 3.73 good idea? How hard to install rearend. Do I have to special tools like shim adjust?
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Originally Posted by Fast355
(Post 5302894)
Put a set of 4.10s in it and unload the engine.
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Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
(Post 5302896)
I don't think turbo will like 4.10. I think 3.73 would be better for na and boost?
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Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
(Post 5302896)
I don't think turbo will like 4.10. I think 3.73 would be better for na and boost?
ive been 160 mph with a 373 and 28" rubber think about that and what most trucks use your truck will benefit from 410s |
This sounds like a ridiculous question, but are you sure that torque management was disabled?
When I first got my truck running about the 80e swap (bone stock 5.3L motor, 3.42 gears) it would not spin the tires to save its life. After disabling torque management, I can stall it up and get the tires smoking easily. |
I can spin both tires off the line, one tire on the 1-2 shift and again at the 2-3 shift.
If it gets a little cooler outside I can get some video. Right now 101F+ ambient, 120F+ IAT. My fuel mileage is bad too, 8MPG city and 16MPG highway. Mostly because of high stall and heavy truck. |
Originally Posted by lxcoupe
(Post 5302982)
This sounds like a ridiculous question, but are you sure that torque management was disabled?
When I first got my truck running about the 80e swap (bone stock 5.3L motor, 3.42 gears) it would not spin the tires to save its life. After disabling torque management, I can stall it up and get the tires smoking easily. |
Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
(Post 5303020)
Mike from Vegeance racing who tuned mine. He did open torque management. Still won't spin. My wheels are 20" with 275/45/20
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Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
(Post 5303020)
Mike from Vegeance racing who tuned mine. He did open torque management. Still won't spin. My wheels are 20" with 275/45/20
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Originally Posted by Suburbazine
(Post 5303025)
That is a lot of rubber on the ground to be trying to spin them.
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Originally Posted by lxcoupe
(Post 5303026)
Post up your hptuners file
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Originally Posted by Fast355
(Post 5303044)
I can spin 255/70R15s on the back of an Express fullsize conversion van. It was a little harder to break loose the 265/50R20s I had on it but I could spin those by powerbraking it too.
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Originally Posted by Suburbazine
(Post 5303228)
Yeah, but 255 and 265 are smaller contact patches than 275.
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I spoke to tech that plan to install for me. Some people say I should go 3.90 gear but I think it not good for turbo? I was thinking about go 3.73 but some people say go 3.90 what is your opinon, Im running 275/45/20 but will change to 17" wheel 1320 someday. Also how much good price for package gear/locker auburn or eaton/ install kit?
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Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
(Post 5304244)
I spoke to tech that plan to install for me. Some people say I should go 3.90 gear but I think it not good for turbo? I was thinking about go 3.73 but some people say go 3.90 what is your opinon, Im running 275/45/20 but will change to 17" wheel 1320 someday. Also how much good price for package gear/locker auburn or eaton/ install kit?
A 28" tall tire on those 17s would work well assuming you trap in the 110-130 mph range at the track. |
Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
(Post 5304244)
I spoke to tech that plan to install for me. Some people say I should go 3.90 gear but I think it not good for turbo? I was thinking about go 3.73 but some people say go 3.90 what is your opinon, Im running 275/45/20 but will change to 17" wheel 1320 someday. Also how much good price for package gear/locker auburn or eaton/ install kit?
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So you guy think I should go 4.10 what about 3.90? Hp I think will make closer 600-700 hp it's up on my motor/turbo peaking.
What about auburn or eaton you rather to chose ? |
Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
(Post 5304357)
So you guy think I should go 4.10 what about 3.90? Hp I think will make closer 600-700 hp it's up on my motor/turbo peaking.
What about auburn or eaton you rather to chose ? my combo is saying 373 with a 30" for 170mph trap target........think about that |
I ran 3.42, 3.90 and 4.10s with my old turbo. 4.10s were the best and 3.42s were freaking horrible.
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Shit you guys are making me wanna ditch my 3.42s asap for some 4.10s lol. I'm going to soon, but I'm running a maggie instead.
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most 342s arent making enough power to justify them
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Originally Posted by George C....
(Post 5304377)
ran 410s with a turbo setup with 28s and trapped 130 on 12.5 psi
my combo is saying 373 with a 30" for 170mph trap target........think about that |
Originally Posted by BlackGMC
(Post 5304379)
I ran 3.42, 3.90 and 4.10s with my old turbo. 4.10s were the best and 3.42s were freaking horrible.
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Lol 4.10s
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Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
(Post 5304423)
Curious 4.10 what top speed they can make it?
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Originally Posted by George C....
(Post 5304440)
410 with 30" tire 7000 rpm 155
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what company gear/locker for good reasonable price. I want to order it soon. Also how about I go eaton or auburn locker. Have you thought about eaton one? also thank for other body help me out with decision..
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Detroit trutrac or Eaton clutch posi both fine. Flip a coin and go with one.
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Got Detroit tru trac. Order it through summit and they give you $50 rebate. That makes it like $354 shipped. CHEAP.
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https://www.quickperformance.com/mob..._p_20406.html#
What do you think Or if you help me see how it work with summit racing to have package for gear/locker/install kit |
Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
(Post 5304674)
https://www.quickperformance.com/mob..._p_20406.html#
What do you think Or if you help me see how it work with summit racing to have package for gear/locker/install kit |
Originally Posted by 1bad2k
(Post 5304706)
That looks like a pretty good deal right there.
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