GM Drivetrain & Suspension Chassis | Transmission| Driveshaft | Gears/Rear End/Differential | Traction Aids

05 Escalade EXT 2wd 4l80e

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 5, 2017 | 08:15 AM
  #11  
Cadillac Edd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 73
Likes: 1
From: Houston, TX
Default

Originally Posted by madmann26
Was the 300m input shaft used? If not, there is your problem.

The way to get a 60/65/70e trans to live is to use all the upgraded hard parts, not overly firm shift and a looser converter (looser than the 3200 you have).

The 1-2 shift doesn't need to be overly firm. If it's overly firm, to the point of being harsh, teeth jarring, that's when parts break.
guilty it was stock...... I asked the builder why he didnt suggest getting the harden input shaft from the beginning he said he didn't think I could break it because I had awd or something like that.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2017 | 08:19 AM
  #12  
madmann26's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,985
Likes: 372
From: Somewhere north of 285, south of 985.
Default

Originally Posted by Cadillac Edd
guilty it was stock...... I asked the builder why he didnt suggest getting the harden input shaft from the beginning he said he didn't think I could break it because I had awd or something like that.
He's a dumbass.

For your gear question, if you're going to convert it to 2wd, go 4.10s. Anything else is a waste.

Especially if you go 80e, the deeper gear will make gear difference between the 60e and 80e less different (if that makes sense).
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2017 | 08:35 AM
  #13  
Cadillac Edd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 73
Likes: 1
From: Houston, TX
Default

Originally Posted by madmann26
He's a dumbass.

For your gear question, if you're going to convert it to 2wd, go 4.10s. Anything else is a waste.

Especially if you go 80e, the deeper gear will make gear difference between the 60e and 80e less different (if that makes sense).
OK. Now question with the 4.10 the guys mentioned highway drive suffering what they mean by that? I like roll racing a Lil better than digging for right now "so I needs mah top end"! Ive gotten this brick up to 142mph on the highway will that decrease with the 4.10. I'm new to this so if I'm asking stupid question.......
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2017 | 08:39 AM
  #14  
madmann26's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,985
Likes: 372
From: Somewhere north of 285, south of 985.
Default

Originally Posted by Cadillac Edd
OK. Now question with the 4.10 the guys mentioned highway drive suffering what they mean by that? I like roll racing a Lil better than digging for right now "so I needs mah top end"! Ive gotten this brick up to 142mph on the highway will that decrease with the 4.10. I'm new to this so if I'm asking stupid question.......
No, it won't decrease. You'll just get there faster.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2017 | 10:22 AM
  #15  
stroker87's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 69
From: Chicago area
Default

my truck was was a dog on top end with the 4l80e/lq4/4.10 combo if your doing 140+ mph i would not do a 4.10 they shine from a dig but suck at roll racing

another thing is boot loves rpm i think your shooting yourself in the foot with a 4.10, i had a stock 93 silverado with a 5.7 3.73 700r4 a friend had one with a 4.10 same truck he would pull me out of the hole but on the highway i would gap his *** every time
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2017 | 10:42 AM
  #16  
Cadillac Edd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 73
Likes: 1
From: Houston, TX
Default

Originally Posted by stroker87
my truck was was a dog on top end with the 4l80e/lq4/4.10 combo if your doing 140+ mph i would not do a 4.10 they shine from a dig but suck at roll racing

another thing is boot loves rpm i think your shooting yourself in the foot with a 4.10, i had a stock 93 silverado with a 5.7 3.73 700r4 a friend had one with a 4.10 same truck he would pull me out of the hole but on the highway i would gap his *** every time
OK see I'm learning lingo also. I thought when you say "a dog" I thought it was a good thing like "its mean" or something of that sort. So in other words it becomes weak or sluggish? Have you heard of the 3.90 gear I seen in another post saying you get some of the benefits of the 4.10 low end and 3.73 top end
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2017 | 10:44 AM
  #17  
Cadillac Edd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 73
Likes: 1
From: Houston, TX
Default

So basically 4.10 is better at track and digs and 3.73 is better street/highway like a DD. I guess I'll stick to the 3.73 till I get procharged. But that means supercharged with 4.10 gears would be overkill?
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2017 | 11:23 AM
  #18  
stroker87's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 69
From: Chicago area
Default

more rpm more boost that simple, every shift is going to lower your boost as rpms drop

i cant tell you what to do but i would not go 4.10, 3.73 is what i would do depending on your HP/TQ your shooting for

Last edited by stroker87; Oct 5, 2017 at 01:00 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2017 | 01:15 PM
  #19  
Cadillac Edd's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 73
Likes: 1
From: Houston, TX
Default

Originally Posted by stroker87
more rpm more boost that simple, every shift is going to lower your boost as rpms drop

i cant tell you what to do but i would not go 4.10, 3.73 is what i would do depending on your HP/TQ your shooting for
OK I'll stick with 3.73.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2017 | 01:26 PM
  #20  
madmann26's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,985
Likes: 372
From: Somewhere north of 285, south of 985.
Default

I would ask around some more before making a decision Edward.

RPM drop off is 3 things:

1. Trans gearing
2. Rear end gearing
3. Converter

With my FTI 3800 single disk at WOT, my RPM drop off is 500 RPMs. Light throttle is more drop.

Your 3200 converter has a drop off of around 1300-1500 RPM, right?
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:44 PM.