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Injector Flow vs Pump Flow

Old Nov 13, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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Greg wrote up a nice article about injectors explaining low flow, high flow, fuel breakpoint, etc. I'll see if I can find it.

http://www.calibratedsuccess.com/***...%20Article.pdf
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 12:16 AM
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Great write up Atomic. Pretty simple and strait forward logic here. That graph really helps to put things in perspective. Thanks man!
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 05:52 AM
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Awesome info!

Looks like I need 2 more 255's . Still cant figure why 1 has brought me this far???
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 10:20 AM
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After messing with this makes me think that my ID1000's and an automotive eliminator pump isn't enough.
Nice write up for sure.
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Old Nov 14, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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Nice informative write-up Richard.

Looks like I am right were I need to be with dual Walbro255 and Siemens 60's with a 1:1 fpr and 15psi of boost assuming no more than 400l/hr of fuel is needed. EDIT: Just looked at a recent track log and see a IDC of 95% at the top of first and 92% at the top of second so it looks like I am at the limit of my injectors and pumps.

Now we just need a spreadsheet showing fuel consumption per cfm air flow assuming max power afr for the specified fuel.

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Old Nov 16, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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I just made this because I cant leave things alone

I plotted fuel flow against power produced using a BFSC of 0.7, which I think is a good estimate for these trucks. How you would use this is to find at what fuel flow your pump and injectors are equalized with whatever boost you are using (that flat line you draw from the injector line to the pump line, extend it all the way to the left to find fuel system flow), and look up what power level that corresponds to on this chart:

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This is wheel horse power and assuming a BSFC of 0.7. This tells you what your fuel system is capable of supporting based on what you find from the right chart in the spreadsheet.
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Atomic
I just made this because I cant leave things alone

I plotted fuel flow against power produced using a BFSC of 0.7, which I think is a good estimate for these trucks. How you would use this is to find at what fuel flow your pump and injectors are equalized with whatever boost you are using (that flat line you draw from the injector line to the pump line, extend it all the way to the left to find fuel system flow), and look up what power level that corresponds to on this chart:


This is wheel horse power and assuming a BSFC of 0.7. This tells you what your fuel system is capable of supporting based on what you find from the right chart in the spreadsheet.
Hey can you make this chart for E85??
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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This also explains why I was able to push 10psi into my 6.0 and still get the AFR I needed on E85 with only a single 255 inline gravity fed, my injectors are 108@4 bar but I only had a single 255 with high flow fittings rated at 300lph, I was running my stock rail mounted regulator, but I didnt have a fuel pressure gauge, I think what was happening was I was losing fuel pressure but gaining fuel flow because my injectors were far from maxed out. Thanks for the info!
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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I imagine if you use something like a BFSC of 1 it will get you close to an E85 rating, so basically the total amount of fuel in pounds per hour would also be the horespower rating. But again, im just guessing. So just shift the curve down 30%.
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 06:53 AM
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Any chance you would apply your charting skills to a Meth chart? To show the amount of fuel that is sustituted by a certain GPH nozzle of straight meth. Would help a lot of people I think.
THANKS for the info already shared.
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