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Oct 6, 2015 | 11:39 AM

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GRRR65GTO

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AEM here too no compaints

Oct 6, 2015 | 11:44 AM

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That contradicts the info on the website in your link and what you pasted into your last post. They both state that the Bosch sensor was used in the NTK kits prior to 2010, and later kits include a "Production Grade NTK Sensor: This is the sensor NGK packaged with the Powerdex AFX in 2010 and later. Newer and lower cost than the Calibration Grade NTK Sensor, this sensor offers the benefits of the NTK architecture at a reduced price."

The powerdex afx was discontinued in 2014 in favor of cheaper option with the bosch sensor.

Oct 6, 2015 | 04:02 PM

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Oh. I've had mine awhile, that is why I was hoping that you were mistaken. How can I tell if my sensor is Bosch or if it is good?

Oct 6, 2015 | 04:43 PM

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Oh. I've had mine awhile, that is why I was hoping that you were mistaken. How can I tell if my sensor is Bosch or if it is good?

If get you a pic of the sensor itself I can compare it to mine. Also, the Bosch sensor is good, but the NTK is superior. For someed thing as critical as AFR in boosted app, I want more accurate sensor.

Oct 6, 2015 | 06:28 PM

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I think your blowing it way out of proportion. Being off +/- 0.2 AFR is not gonna blow a motor.

Oct 6, 2015 | 06:58 PM

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Don't tune so close to the edge and .2 would be irrelevant. Not saying you do but for conversations sake.

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Oct 6, 2015 | 07:22 PM

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Oct 6, 2015 | 07:51 PM

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I think your blowing it way out of proportion. Being off +/- 0.2 AFR is not gonna blow a motor.

I'm curious why you think it's just 0.2 AFR. If you do some reading you may find that the error is larger than you think.

Oct 6, 2015 | 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeGyver

That looks to be the new sensor and different from mine. It also correlates with what I see in the picture here:

NGK AFX replacement AFRM

Oct 6, 2015 | 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GMCtrk

I'm curious why you think it's just 0.2 AFR. If you do some reading you may find that the error is larger than you think.

Because what is posted on the internet is always true. Speak from your personal experience. I am soooo tired of people reading on some obscure random forum then posting it somewhere else as facts. I have personally use several of the below at the same time to gauge the accuracy. I have noticed no measureable differences.

I have tried the following.

Aem
Innovate lc1
Innovate lm1
Innovate lm2
Autometer

Out of the 5 i have personally owned the AEM one is the best. The biggest difference is being able to log serial data. Analog data is prone to voltage offset issues.

What widebands have you personally tired and compared.

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