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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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I've been running it on my 8.1 for about 4 months or more now. The two must's are larger injectors and ability to adjust fuel, either injector time or PSI like I do. Works great, absolutely no knock retard, quite, smooth as glass idle, cooler A/C. I got about 20 lbs.ft. from idle to redline at all throttle postitions. I love it.

I had already installed Marine 8.1 injectors and reduced fuel PSI with the factory regulator until the long term fuel trim was about -5%. When I found E85 for sale local I just pulled in and filled up. The PCM recallibrated itself quickly. Within 20 miles of various driving I could go WOT with improved power. I adjusted to PSI up a bit to split the difference in fuel trims between E85 and Gas. They are at +15 on E85 now.

Fuel efficiency takes about a 20 drop. I went from 9.5 city to 7 (7,000 lbs. 4x4 2500HD). I've got 12 on the hwy with it though still heavy footin.

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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Quik

talked to a turbo shop and said it helps keep the vehicle alittle cooler after a run...has anyone else heard or experience that
This is definitely true. I recently took a ride in a big single turbo'd big block. He said he had a 20* drop in temp as soon as they switched over to E85. I watched the temp gauge to verify this and the engine temp never ran over 185* after beating on it pretty hard.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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From what I have read into the conversions you'll need about 35% more injector. If you would have needed 96's, you'll likely need 130+ to make up for it. Since E85 uses Ethanol, it is not very corrosive unlike Methanol which is used is most systems running on just alcahol. Are you considering maybe a Big Stuff with dual fueling?
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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I've been running E85 for about 2 months now w/ no problems. My truck already has a alcohol composition sensor on it though. I have the Radix supplied fuel pump and Ford SVT 60#. Once the pcm reconized the fuel. It switched over and fuel trims +/- 5%. No tuning needed on top of the original PCM4Less tune. Saves me $$$$ premium is $3.09 and I can find E85 for $2.49 The 3-4 hmpg I loose is worth it
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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It would be nice if the 06's still have the fuel composition sensor. Mine just guess's how much E85 is in the tank, it's pretty much never correct. I can run 33º of timing in the colder weather though with E85.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Can the fuel composition sensor be bought and installed onto a non-E85 vehicle? That seems like a good way to go about it IMO.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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Good question.

My flex-fuel tahoe's sensor works pretty well. For a while, I got into a habit of scanning the ethanol % before and after filling up. It would adjust very quickly. It became apparent that the 'cheap' gas stations used a higher ethanol percentage than better stations. At a cheap station, it would adjust stoich from 14.7:1 down to 13.9:1 at the cheap station. Fuel economy would drop 5% at the same time.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tamatt27
Can the fuel composition sensor be bought and installed onto a non-E85 vehicle? That seems like a good way to go about it IMO.
It can be done, but it's also going to require some fancy wiring or a harness change.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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I'm going to give it a try. Now I have to see if my Inovate wide band will convert to a/f to lamda.
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