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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Ordered the AlkyControl Meth kit and it's going in next week, with more dyno tuning, of course.
What do ya think the results will be as far as HP/TQ?
Does it increase boost by condensing the air?
How will it affect my 1/4 times and speed?

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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If you don't add boost and/or timing it will do very little if any. The largest benefit is not in air temp reduction, it's in the ability to run more boost and timing on pump gas.

I picked up over 50 rwhp with mine on pump gas, but only because I ran more timing and boost.

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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What he said. The cooling effect is there but not the main benefit. The octane boost allows for more timing to be run. Just remember more timing doesnt always get you more power. At a point it will stop and you will just be adding timing to add it. Your tuner will have to work that out on the dyno.

Also, if its tuned for meth---NEVER run out of meth or you get this smilie sequence:
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on mine I gained 40 poneys by increasing timing and allowed 5lbs of boost without detonation. worth the money just for the added safety.
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Definately adding timing. I understand meth increases octane. I will be Dyno tuning after the install, and I know not to run out .

I'm currently running with 8.5lbs peak boost, and about 20* when IAT's dont pull it.

Does the boost increase without a pulley change as a result of the denser charge?

I'm hoping to break the 500hp mark and have the added security. Think I'll drop a couple of tenths?
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No such thing as "denser charge" in FI. Boost will only increase if you turn it up (pulley change or boost controller for us turbo beans).

What the meth will do is drop your IATs pretty significantly, and increase the explosive power of your fuel (making more hp), increase octane, and help cover minor fueling issues.

When you retune, pay special attention to the AFR and the timing (meth can drop your AFR like a stone and you may need to compensate if you end up running enough), and walk your timing up.
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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
No such thing as "denser charge" in FI. Boost will only increase if you turn it up (pulley change or boost controller for us turbo beans).
Thanks, I understand better.
Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
What the meth will do is drop your IATs pretty significantly, and increase the explosive power of your fuel (making more hp), increase octane, and help cover minor fueling issues.
What kind of HP increase Do you think I will see?
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When you retune, pay special attention to the AFR and the timing (meth can drop your AFR like a stone and you may need to compensate if you end up running enough), and walk your timing up.
Rick@Synergy is taking care of the tuning, I'm in good shape there.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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Dam you work quick. Awesome setup though. Lookin forward to seein you break the 500 mark. **** 11s gotta be a goal for you at some point...no? NOS maybe?

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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mjcook6
Dam you work quick. Awesome setup though. Lookin forward to seein you break the 500 mark. **** 11s gotta be a goal for you at some point...no? NOS maybe?

Matt
More like I have no patience and want it now!
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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If Rick's doing your tuning, you are all set. As far as how much HP you will see, I think you will see more from the tuning than the meth itself, but they are synergistic.
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