View Poll Results: What size engine?
370



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408



8
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What size engine?
#11
There are a few 383s, but there is a reason for that. A 383 in an iron block has all of the draw backs of a 408(piston instability) with none of the advantages(more cubes). IMO its not worth it for the extra 13 cubes. If youre going to do it, go with an aluminum block so some of the piston rock problem will not be as bad.
One advantage is fuel savings for a DD if driven moderately. I know a blown 383 will still be a hog but would still be better than a 408. Kind of like a blown 5.3 vs a N/A 6.0. The power is still there if you want it but the smaller displacement means better economy for lighter DD'ing. Now I realize that if we're strictly talking performance, the 408 is king... especially with FI.
#12
I'm splitting the difference and building a 383. I'm using a super cheap 5.3 bored to 3.905, a 4" crank and CP Bullet pistons of -18.2cc's. I just got the pistons today and I must say they are absolutely perfect forged beauties. I'll be running a compression ratio of about 9.7:1 under my 1900 blower. I know that the 383 will be stretching the Magnusen's output but I've read an old Hot Rod article that had one on a 402 that made nearly 700hp.
I like the stroker because of the torque and I like the displacement... halfway between the 364 and the 408. And besides, I haven't heard of anyone building a blown 383 yet. Gotta be different.
I like the stroker because of the torque and I like the displacement... halfway between the 364 and the 408. And besides, I haven't heard of anyone building a blown 383 yet. Gotta be different.

#15
Yes aluminum blocks have longer cylinder skirts keeping the piston more stable at BDC. When/if I ever build another stroker it will be out of an LS2 or LS3 block.
BTW, is there a 3.75" crank readily available?
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I'm glad you guys brought up the longevity point, because I would like this engine to last for a while as well. If a 370 can help me reach my goals more reliably than a 408, then that would be the way to go.
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Damn you, I was about to mentio the point you just did. Sure the 408 will give more TQ but you hinted that it's gonna all come out to the same hp. (your quote on big cubes low boost vs. smaller cubes and higher boost) led me to believe you have a hp goal in mind. that being said, both those engines will reach it, more or less the same so might as well stick with the 370 which like cody said will have less piston rock/slap.
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I don't really have a power goal in mind. Performance at the track is a good enough indicator for me, so whatever will carry me to a 10.90 is good, regardless if it comes from a larger or smaller motor. I am definitely leaning towards the 370, though. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than the 408 too
I'm an easy victim of persuasion though, so by all means, throw in your opinions/ideas!
I'm an easy victim of persuasion though, so by all means, throw in your opinions/ideas!
#20
There are a few 383s, but there is a reason for that. A 383 in an iron block has all of the draw backs of a 408(piston instability) with none of the advantages(more cubes). IMO its not worth it for the extra 13 cubes. If youre going to do it, go with an aluminum block so some of the piston rock problem will not be as bad.
now to the OP i would use a 408, the hp will be the same but torque is made from cubes. you can make 800 hp from a 4.8 but torque lacks and the heavier the vehicle the more torque you need.
as for longivity that comes into question. i have yet to see someone in the performance world keep a project long enough to be aconcern. most sell them, most redesign the build before it becomes a issue.
this comes to the mix as well. ppl dont realize how much it actually costs and the requirements of a build like this. Once a build gets to a certain point, its time to make it a toy and not a daily. Im not sure your financial situation but the cost of a 1k hp build is beyond most ppl's toy fund but ppl do achieve it. now ask yourself can you afford to spend that money twice or maybe 3 times? the maintenance of say a 20k build over the years vs the cost of building that 20k build and using it as a toy. turbos wear out, blowers wear out, hp trannys wear out, and etc. somethign to think about, after spending 10s of thousands of dollars on my truck no way in hell i would truely daily that much cash. its not worth the wear and tear to replace the parts over and over again. a 1000hp truck leads to a purchase of another truck/car.........something to think about........... leave it alone and enjoy it or plan to spend more money then you wanted and then hate your truck
Last edited by Quik; Aug 16, 2010 at 05:49 AM.


