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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Looked at my log from friday night and saw 200% IDC

AFR was creaping up to 12.3 (commanded 11.2)
i had replaced my DO7 for a DO14 meth nozzle, then later i added the D07 back for a total of a D07, DO10, and DO14 nozzles. 31gph methanol.

tuned it in and made a pass, top of first it ramps up to~10psi, then after the 1-2 shift it goes up to 15psi and holds it there.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Nothing...IDC is a measure of the ratio of time open over time possible. 100% means it is open the entire time possible, so a value greater than 100% is impossible and doesnt make sense (open longer than able to be open...).

It is also a calculated value based on the IFR table, commanded equivalence ratio, ve table (or maf) and rpm, which is why it will show over 100%. If yours says 200% then you need injectors twice as large...if you didnt have meth you would be waaaay lean.

Should also note, it doesnt matter what the AFR actually is because the stock ECM does not have closed loop control outside of stoich. So no matter if you are actually very rich or very lean, IDC will not change. Again, its calculated based on rpm, IFR table, VE table (or maf), and commanded equivalance ratio (1/lambda). If all of those parameters are correct (especially ve table, and IFR table), the IDC is very accurate.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 04:19 PM
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ok that makes sense.. i dont open the cutout anymore
cutout closed and it does 5psi so smooth and easy.. cutout open and 15psi and pulls like silly.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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The cutout on your wastegate or exhaust? That points to your exhaust being very restrictive.

Since your setup is different from most, I am betting that if you (in reference to the cutouts)...

Open downpipe, closed gate - very high boost (ie, poor boost control)
closed downpipe, open gate - very low boost (ie, great boost control)
closed downpipe, closed gate - medium boost (due to poor turbine expansion and choked gate)
open downpipe, and open gate - best setup (good turbine expansion and high gate authority)
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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I thought you just bought 60#ers?
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They were 57# at 58psi...
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 05:03 PM
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oh, i thought you sent those back and go the ones that are 72#s at 58psi?
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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Instead of retunin too many times i just got him to send me the 85s and ill ship the others back soon as i put the new ones in
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Now im thinkin i should have got his next size ones up. 98s or something like that.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 06:06 PM
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Man i was thinking about ordering the 72s, why are you going so big? Basically our setups will be similar
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