Time for more fuel
#1
Well, i got my PCM reflashed and tuned after my PCM failure last week. Got it down to the shop and got it tuned back up. Seems now with my 7lb pulley i have maxed out my injectors...
. I was suprised to see my 43lb injectors were at 106% @ 4900rpm's. I redline at 5K anyway so its not like i will be up there that much, but it may be time to start looking at some 60lb'ers. Seems kind of crazy to me that my 43lb'ers are maxed out and i still see 68psi of fuel pressure on my stock pump. Another thing that was a little bothersome was we could not for the life of us get all the knock out of this thing. Even pulling back to 12* at WOT it was pulling some timing out, about the same as it was at 14*, so we left it there. A/F was good at about 11.4 but just could not get the knock all the way out. Cleared out the burst knock table and even lowered the sensor tolerance a little and it still remained. If anyone has any suggestions im all ears. Im not really all that knowledgable about tuning but i can relay any suggestions to the shop guy. Truck is running strong again, now back to my intercooler quest..
. I was suprised to see my 43lb injectors were at 106% @ 4900rpm's. I redline at 5K anyway so its not like i will be up there that much, but it may be time to start looking at some 60lb'ers. Seems kind of crazy to me that my 43lb'ers are maxed out and i still see 68psi of fuel pressure on my stock pump. Another thing that was a little bothersome was we could not for the life of us get all the knock out of this thing. Even pulling back to 12* at WOT it was pulling some timing out, about the same as it was at 14*, so we left it there. A/F was good at about 11.4 but just could not get the knock all the way out. Cleared out the burst knock table and even lowered the sensor tolerance a little and it still remained. If anyone has any suggestions im all ears. Im not really all that knowledgable about tuning but i can relay any suggestions to the shop guy. Truck is running strong again, now back to my intercooler quest..
#2
I know you don't like to hear it, but meth will fix both your problems and let you run more timing. Just an idea. I got a Devils Own kit and it works great. Price was right too.
#5
I'm not surprised you're maxing out the injectors. My 4.8 w/ 10 lb. boost is hitting 86% at WOT and about 5500 rpm. I would go with the 60 lb. injectors if I were you. Meth injection (or an intercooler) will help with the knock, but would just be a band-aid over the lean condition, which could haunt you later (just ask mjhoward
). Does the 8.1 engine have iron heads? If so, that can also be a factor. Do you actually hear the knock, or is it just pulling timing? If the latter, how much was it pulling? It is normal to see 1° or 2° of knock retard, even when everything is OK, just the pcm probing the limits.
). Does the 8.1 engine have iron heads? If so, that can also be a factor. Do you actually hear the knock, or is it just pulling timing? If the latter, how much was it pulling? It is normal to see 1° or 2° of knock retard, even when everything is OK, just the pcm probing the limits.
#7
Originally Posted by Blown330
How can you have 106% duty cycle? At 100% they are static. 68 psi is a good bit of fuel pressure too.
Originally Posted by GMC_DUDE
I'm not surprised you're maxing out the injectors. My 4.8 w/ 10 lb. boost is hitting 86% at WOT and about 5500 rpm. I would go with the 60 lb. injectors if I were you. Meth injection (or an intercooler) will help with the knock, but would just be a band-aid over the lean condition, which could haunt you later (just ask mjhoward ). Does the 8.1 engine have iron heads? If so, that can also be a factor. Do you actually hear the knock, or is it just pulling timing? If the latter, how much was it pulling? It is normal to see 1° or 2° of knock retard, even when everything is OK, just the pcm probing the limits.
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#9
About the 106% duty cycle, yes that is possible. That is the commanded value, i.e. what the pcm would like to inject to meet the calibration. Of course that value is not possible in the real world, hence the lean condition.



