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Old 12-17-2011, 03:42 PM
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What size turbo are you running? Be specific. I want to know what flange, T4, T6, ect., what A/R and so on and how much power its making at what psi.

I am going to be building a forged Gen 1 383 with ported vortec heads with 2.05/1.60 valves and a comp XFI 268 cam, Edelbrock EFI manifold and so on and can't decide on what turbo would fit it best. The engine stands to make 450+ hp and torque NA at 9:1 and the turbo headers I've got use a 2 1/2 inch pipe with a T4 flange so I will need a turbo that can flow. I like the idea of 700-800 hp but I'm open to suggestions. I am wanting to go with a Borg Warner if it makes a difference. I would like something that spools by 3000 rpm and for the most part stays out of boost for everyday driving back and forth to work. I run 2200 rpms at 70 in OD if that makes a difference.
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I'd go with a BW S475, or 480 with the 83mm exh wheel, T6 1.10, or T4 1.15. You would prob be wasting your time with much more turbo than that with that block.
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You think a 1.10 AR would be big enough to not cause too much back pressure?
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I have a 91mm 1.08 AR on 408 cubes. If I could do it again I'd have a gt80 on my t6 kit.
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What would be the reason for using a divided turbo on an undivided T4 flange header system? To me it seems like the divider would only cause a restriction but their seems to be way more divided than undivided turbos out there.
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The S480 looks pretty nice. The S480 with a 1.10 AR would have a fairly quick spool but still support high hp on the big end would it not?
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Originally Posted by oldred95
You think a 1.10 AR would be big enough to not cause too much back pressure?
A T6 1.10 a/r housing is HUGE when compared to most T4's like Magnums with there little 67mm turbine wheels. You need to know that a/r is not actually a size, but a ratio of area/radius. With a big turbine wheel like an 83mm of the 75/83 (s475) 80/83 (S480) you have a much bigger area (t6 opening (area) and the 83mm turbine wheel (radius)) so it flows a LOT of air. Here is an example of size difference. Both turbos are T4, .96 a/r, the the turbo on the left is a 94mm turbine wheel (PT88) and the right is only a 67mm turbine wheel (Magnum T76) both .96 a/r's. See the difference?

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Originally Posted by oldred95
What would be the reason for using a divided turbo on an undivided T4 flange header system? To me it seems like the divider would only cause a restriction but their seems to be way more divided than undivided turbos out there.
Mostly because you can't get an open housing for those turbos. BW doesn't make an open housing. You can knife edge the housing like I did on the T4 1.0 a/r housing I run on my BW 80/83.

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Originally Posted by oldred95
The S480 looks pretty nice. The S480 with a 1.10 AR would have a fairly quick spool but still support high hp on the big end would it not?
Even with the small 83mm turbine wheel (you can get up to a 96mm), it should still should still be good for around 800hp or so,
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That is pretty substantial. Yea I still don't understand the whole A/R debacle. I know if its less than 1.00 its going to spool faster and more than 1.00 its going to spool slower. I just can't get over how the Borg Warners are sooooooooo much bigger. So what you are telling me is that a S480 1.10 with a 92mm turbine wheel on a T4 flange might be about right?
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Originally Posted by oldred95
That is pretty substantial. Yea I still don't understand the whole A/R debacle. I know if its less than 1.00 its going to spool faster and more than 1.00 its going to spool slower. I just can't get over how the Borg Warners are sooooooooo much bigger. So what you are telling me is that a S480 1.10 with a 92mm turbine wheel on a T4 flange might be about right?
That turbo will make a lot of power! and still spool decent
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
That turbo will make a lot of power! and still spool decent
So whats one like that going to be worth? Might as well go with a polished housing while I'm at it to match the headers. I don't plan on wrapping the headers but I will put a blanket on the turbo and down pipe to try and keep all the heat in I can. Obviously the wrapping the down pipe won't help with spooling any but it will keep the cab from glowing red hot.


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