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Old 08-13-2018, 06:23 PM
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Just wondering what the blown guys thoughts are. I love my truck for daily driving at work and I hesitate to screw with it because I like it like it is. Additionally even a cam swap is a major expense let alone fuel upgrades. I do plan to keep it however what if I get a wild hair in a couple years and want to trade it. It would be great to easily put it back to stock. Just crossed my mind maybe a shot of gas along with dedicated fuel or meth not sure. That way it would be useful the way it is with no downside and just a button away from a real kick in the ***! Thoughts gentlemen?
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I did this...works awesome. Designed a manifold spacer to fit between the blower halves, had nitrous outlet install spray bars, and use my meth pump as the nitrous fuel. I think I ended up around a 200shot on top of 15psi. Based on weight and trap speed it was about 850rwhp. IATs dropped 40 something degrees from the start to the finish.

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Track video, you can hear it about a second after I take off when the nitrous kicks in. Changes exhaust sound a lot, makes it sound a lot...meaner.
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Do it, even a simple plate system behind the throttlebody would work well.
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I did this...works awesome. Designed a manifold spacer to fit between the blower halves, had nitrous outlet install spray bars, and use my meth pump as the nitrous fuel. I think I ended up around a 200shot on top of 15psi. Based on weight and trap speed it was about 850rwhp. IATs dropped 40 something degrees from the start to the finish.

Spray bar test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4MUIiS1lyo

Track video, you can hear it about a second after I take off when the nitrous kicks in. Changes exhaust sound a lot, makes it sound a lot...meaner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQESe-gKBvU
It was actually your beast that got me to thinking about it! So a meth pump would be the ticket then. Wonder if my stock L83 fuel system would support E85 and then meth and NO on top or stick with 93?
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Originally Posted by 03sierraslt
Do it, even a simple plate system behind the throttlebody would work well.
Yeah I was thinking something simple that could be removed if the situation arises. Appreciate the input.
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It would probably work ok depending on the shot size. On mine I didnt even pull any timing with the nitrous, just let it eat
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I was thinking maybe 75-100. That would rock I think with E85 if it would have enough fuel system and just use meth for the Nitr.
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Nitrous and blowers work well together. But pill size and final HP are not the same as NA. On small shots its close, the larger the shot the spread will start opening up.
On a lightning 100=125 200 was almost 300 more HP. Caught the customer and the tuner off guard. So start small and go up. do not waste your time on a 50shot that's just sad to hear that number getting added to a build.
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Since my setup was so unusual using a 200psi meth pump with methanol on a pump gas blower setup, I basically made a best guess as to the jets to start with. When the first try was leaner than I liked I went up to the next size fuel jet and that made it way rich, so I kept increasing nitrous jet until I got the AFR where I wanted it which ended up being around a 200 shot on my particular setup.
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Originally Posted by Atomic
Since my setup was so unusual using a 200psi meth pump with methanol on a pump gas blower setup, I basically made a best guess as to the jets to start with. When the first try was leaner than I liked I went up to the next size fuel jet and that made it way rich, so I kept increasing nitrous jet until I got the AFR where I wanted it which ended up being around a 200 shot on my particular setup.
That is an unusually set up.
Meth pumps, don't they vary their out put, PWM set ups. or when your was on its on and its at 200psi?

Bet it a kick in the *** compared to NO sauce.


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