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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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I ran pretty consistant mid 12's without the nitrous. Best run blower only was 12.51 i think, heck I can't remember the last blower only run click my sig and read page 2.
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Last Call
Meth definately helped me out. I ran 13.1 on 5psi with the 6.0. I ran 12.5 with 8psi and meth. Horsepower went from 448 to 475. Timing went from 18 to 21.

I think the meth helped at the end of the track where the blower used to get hot and the PCM started pulling timing.
? I highly doubt that meth gave you anything enormous. I'd go out on the limb here and guess the extra 3 pounds of boost didn't hurt. You are saying the 5psi was at 18* right? and the 8psi was at 21*? right? We all could try and compare dyno runs to dyno runs, but we all know it is really only specifically helpful to you and your specific changes. 27hp just doesn't sound like a lot to me when you add 3#'s. What was your AFR in those particular pulls.

Originally Posted by trever1t
I had heard that too, a long long time ago but I haven't heard anything in the last 3 years about it and an awful lot of us are heavy into the meth. Maybe BC can tell us of any returns with lobe issues due to meth use?



I don't recommend using the ice or any other local coolant, I can see the lobes getting damaged due to metal warpage with the cold/heat. I know you and others have done it J but it doesn't seem wise to me.



Methanol effectively increases the octane ave. for the fuel burned which in turn allows more timing without detonation. I do not think it has much of a cooling effect on the IAT's.
If you are drowning your junk daily then worry about. If you are every so often getting some meth on it, I wouldn't sweat it. At 40K mine looked great, like new actually. (unprofessional eye here of course) But I'll admit I don't throw as much meth on mine as most. If not a lot less I suppose.

Originally Posted by vanillagorilla
That could just be because your drag racing a truck. Trucks don't gain mph after the 1/8th like cars do. They have a lot less cDA than us truck guys. Plus if you're 4wd or AWD, it tends to slow you down on the big end.
I have many of time got the 4wd to turn off half way down the track and noticed NO gains from turning it off. I used to believe that, and still sorta want to believe it slows you down on the end some. Or holds you back at least, but I just can't seem to prove it.
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dewmanshu
? I highly doubt that meth gave you anything enormous. I'd go out on the limb here and guess the extra 3 pounds of boost didn't hurt. You are saying the 5psi was at 18* right? and the 8psi was at 21*? right? We all could try and compare dyno runs to dyno runs, but we all know it is really only specifically helpful to you and your specific changes. 27hp just doesn't sound like a lot to me when you add 3#'s. What was your AFR in those particular pulls.
Yes, 5 psi was at 18 degrees. 8 psi was at 21 degrees. 3.1 to a 2.9 pulley. I dynoed 515 on a dynojet and 545 on Synergy's Dynapack with a little bit of timing being pulled from KR.

My truck is wierd. lol I did the 90mm, gained 30rwhp, and went from a 12.51 to a 12.18.
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Last Call
I have experienced similar issues at the track. I know the methanol cools the charge down, just not sure how much it hellps with heat soak. After a run, the j-tube on my blower has some frost on it and it is cold.
You had FROST on your J-tube after a run spraying meth? never had that happen to me at any meth concentration. I would almost welcome that sign though

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I don't recommend using the ice or any other local coolant, I can see the lobes getting damaged due to metal warpage with the cold/heat. I know you and others have done it J but it doesn't seem wise to me.
Don't flame my guys however I would ice down the blower all the time. I also put plastic ice cubes in the intercooler res. (the cubes are just water filled plastic squares). I would run the intercooler and my E-fans while sitting in the staging lanes with the motor off. I was able to get the starting IAT's to be about 20-25* over ambient this way. Best run I had had IAT's in the low 90's and finished in the low 120's (spraying 50/50 meth to H2O).

Originally Posted by trever1t
Methanol effectively increases the octane ave. for the fuel burned which in turn allows more timing without detonation. I do not think it has much of a cooling effect on the IAT's.
Totally agree. Meth wasn't worth the gains for me. I basically did it because my injectors were spent so I figured I would get 2 birds with one stone. If I had to do it over, I would have just installed my larger injectors.


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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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WOW! That's a lot of reading! Very impressive and well documented---thanks. I bet that guy in that ZO6 was pissed!


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I ran pretty consistant mid 12's without the nitrous. Best run blower only was 12.51 i think, heck I can't remember the last blower only run click my sig and read page 2.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. I think Meth may be my answer mainly due to the enrichment. I'm putting a magnavolt booster on soon, but I don't think that will completely solve my problems when I get down in the mid to low 12's. I'm currently running 42lb lightning injectors. With the meth I wouldn't have to upgrade to a return line type system, etc. At least that is what I'm thinking.

Thanks for you feedback on the other site---I responded over there.

One last thing----it looks like that 90mm tb is the whip! What et/mph gains are you guys seeing?

Originally Posted by krambo
You had FROST on your J-tube after a run spraying meth? never had that happen to me at any meth concentration. I would almost welcome that sign though



Don't flame my guys however I would ice down the blower all the time. I also put plastic ice cubes in the intercooler res. (the cubes are just water filled plastic squares). I would run the intercooler and my E-fans while sitting in the staging lanes with the motor off. I was able to get the starting IAT's to be about 20-25* over ambient this way. Best run I had had IAT's in the low 90's and finished in the low 120's (spraying 50/50 meth to H2O).



Totally agree. Meth wasn't worth the gains for me. I basically did it because my injectors were spent so I figured I would get 2 birds with one stone. If I had to do it over, I would have just installed my larger injectors.


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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by slowfive0
Thanks for the feedback. I think Meth may be my answer mainly due to the enrichment. I'm putting a magnavolt booster on soon, but I don't think that will completely solve my problems when I get down in the mid to low 12's. I'm currently running 42lb lightning injectors. With the meth I wouldn't have to upgrade to a return line type system, etc. At least that is what I'm thinking.

Thanks for you feedback on the other site---I responded over there.

One last thing----it looks like that 90mm tb is the whip! What et/mph gains are you guys seeing?
I went from a 12.51 to a 12.18 with the 90mm upgrade and tuning. Didnt really notice much of a boost increase. HP went from 475 to 505 with the 90mm and tuning.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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WOW!!! What's involved to convert? How much $$$'s? Thanks.

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I went from a 12.51 to a 12.18 with the 90mm upgrade and tuning. Didnt really notice much of a boost increase. HP went from 475 to 505 with the 90mm and tuning.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dewmanshu
I have many of time got the 4wd to turn off half way down the track and noticed NO gains from turning it off. I used to believe that, and still sorta want to believe it slows you down on the end some. Or holds you back at least, but I just can't seem to prove it.
I thought the jury was still out as to whether it actually switches out of 4wd at WOT.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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I talked to a few that can't tell, I swear... I feel it go out. Maybe I just expect it so much. I'll admit this, I broke that plunger/fork deal when I first got my truck and I would be surprised looking at how it all works that the front axel stays enagaged until you drop the horsepower or let out of it. But I swear it feels different like a second or two after the light turns to 2wd.


errr edit...what I meant to say is, looking at how it works, I agree with you, seems it would stay engaged until you let off the gas. The slip coupling would just stay in place once the plunger receded.

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